Why You Should be Watching The Real Housewives of SLC

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Hey everyone, welcome back to
the Salty Host Podcast.

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This is Mel.
And this is.

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Claire and we are back coming at
you from the Mordor.

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Do you like that?
I love that.

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That tickled me.
It's.

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It's like Mormon Corridor
Mordor, but it also sounds like

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Mordor.
Yeah, it's like, so, Harry.

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Potter.
Esque well Tolkien, right?

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No.
My God, how dare you?

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How dare you love Harry Potter
in with the secret book of JRR

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Tolkien.
I can't believe you, Claire.

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I cannot believe I did that
either.

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It's.
Going to be a first.

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Fight.
I'm blushing.

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Just kidding.
I'm joking.

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No, I'm literally blushing
because that is embarrassing

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given my professional
background.

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I'm like, oh, Harry.
Just to be clear, we're getting

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an attention already.
I haven't.

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Apart from my kids, I haven't
read any of those.

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But anyway, moving on.
OK, let's move on.

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All right, we are here today to
talk about one of our favorite

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topics, which is the Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City.

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I know we adore them, but first,
let's check in.

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Let's catch up.
I haven't seen you since last

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week.
So Claire, how are things?

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What's going on?
I've missed you.

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I've missed you too.
You missed me too.

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So much.
At least we text every day.

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We do.
We text multiple times a day,

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which is which is lovely.
My week has been like just a

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lot, which may explain my
ignoramus comments at the start

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of the pod.
Claire, I feel like every week

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you tell me your week is a lot,
and I wonder if at some point it

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might be possible to remove some
things from your plate.

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Is this an intervention?
I'm not yet, but it will be.

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I'm just gathering data right
now.

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You know, you're right.
And honestly, I, I feel like

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without getting too deep, like I
don't really know how to live

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any other way.
And I, I would have to also

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maybe embarrassingly admit that
that's I quite enjoy it.

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OK, I.
Then maybe there's no problem.

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I mean, there probably is my my
nervous system is probably

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extremely dysregulated, but you
know, a lot of it's temporary.

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OK.
Well then that you can get

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through if it's temporary
exactly.

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I've got like. 14 1/2 weeks of
hell left and then and then we

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should see some slow down.
So do this.

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You know, it's fine.
It's it's, it's all good, but I

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appreciate.
Your concern, OK, sorry to

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interject slash, intervene slash
whatever.

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Back to your week.
It was a lot.

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Tell me more.
It just, you know, but it was

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also pretty uneventful and I am
grateful for uneventful weeks

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because give me all the boring
days.

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Like honestly, because
uneventful is, is a good thing.

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I did, I get headaches as you
know, like, and I'm, I'm trying

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to work through that and it, it
actually made me think of being

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single because I have been
single for quite some time now.

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And you know, it's often like
when I get like a headache that

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it, it kind of effects you
because, you know, there's a

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skin hunger, right?
That comes very real with

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singlehood.
But it's not just about like

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sex, right?
It's about like I who's going to

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rub my neck?
Touch.

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Yes, just physical touch.
Like I need somebody to rub my

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neck.
I mean, we're meant to have that

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as humans, yes, that's a real
need.

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It's it's very much a need and
like, bless my poor children.

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Like my son is living back at
home with me right now.

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And he came out of the bathroom
very early in the morning and I

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was just laying face down on the
floor.

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Like I'd say I feel like, Oh my
God, has she like kicked the

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bucket or something?
But I I was like, son, will you

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just like push my back before
you go downstairs?

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Like just just push on it.
Like to try and alleviate this

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headache something.
Yeah.

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And, you know, and and they're
like, it doesn't have to be a

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dude.
I I went to the wee, you know,

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the wee bath house with a good
friend the other week.

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Glow might.
Yes, I.

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Love that place, it's such a oh
divine.

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Very divine and I and I went
with my good wee chum, my wee

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sister, I call her and she was
like she was amazing.

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She gave me like a full rub dine
in the steam room.

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And that was so nice because
you're just like but and you

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know, there's I use a tennis
ball.

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OK.
Yeah.

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To be clear for the headache
like you, you.

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Lay on it or something.
Yes, I lay in it.

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It's not between your legs.
It's not between my legs.

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I'm sorry, it's no, but I that's
a fair distinction to make.

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And well, because I did think
about that and there's like a

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little occipital wedge that you
can get to, you know, get really

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in there.
And and then I thought about the

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functionality of, you know, it's
like God people make pieces of

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rubber to help Single Ladies
like in the do indeed in the

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form of an occipital wedge or.
Or in a different form.

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Or in a different kind of a
wedge.

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So thank God for foam and
plastic and.

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I just bought a new like piece
of plastic rubber late, I don't

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know what it is.
Anyway, just that.

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Yeah, that's nice.
We should talk about that

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sometime.
For your occipital wedge or.

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For no for a different body
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Yeah, I we should do an episode
on that.

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Yes, period.
OK, we'll put a pin on that.

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We're going to come back to it.
So, preview of coming

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attractions everyone.
Yes, literally a wee sex toy

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review that was a double
entendre.

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I like those coming attractions.
Hopefully.

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Coming yes, if they work, yes we
will find a site and review them

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so you don't have to find.
Out.

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Absolutely.
This is.

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Good.
What about your week?

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How was your week?
My week was pretty good, so I

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think I told you last week I'd
been on a couple of dates with

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the person, the same person I
know, which is like wow.

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Groundbreaking.
It's very cool.

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It's it's hope.
Hope for It's hope for you.

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Hope for me, hope for the
masses.

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Yes, so I have seen him a couple
more times this week.

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Nice and.
I think I'm gonna see him again.

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And oh gosh, I even hesitate to
say this, Claire, because I

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don't want to jinx anything so.
We'll knock on wood.

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There we go.
OK, I mean, throw some salt.

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Yes, over our shoulder.
All the is that what you do?

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To confuse the devil Irish.
People are very superstitious.

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I'll do all the things.
Oh.

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OK, I don't know if we have a
lot of office fans out there,

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but I've watched most of it.
And I love the line where he

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says I'm not superstitious, but
I am a little stitious.

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It's.
That's a great line, right.

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So you're a little.
I'm a little sicious So what I'm

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about to say is maybe going to
jinx this but I actually pause

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my bumble profile.
Why?

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I know because I was like, well,
you know, who knows if this is

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going to go anywhere, if this
has legs, but like, I'd rather

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see what unfolds right now
rather than, you know, swipe be

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swipe it on that.
I love that.

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I really respect that because
you know, you've had a couple of

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diets, so it's not like the
first diet, but I because I

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really struggle with that
divided energy.

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I mean, I know that to a point.
It's a good thing, especially in

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the early days, but I also love
the idea of just having that

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waste piece to let it, you know,
develop.

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I love that.
Right, Just see what happens.

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We did have a conversation about
it, but not like a we need to be

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exclusive conversation.
He just was very clear and

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direct.
And this is another thing I'm

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like, what is this clear,
direct, kind communication?

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Oh my God, right?
What does he have?

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Clean clothes?
This is what I need to know.

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He does have clean clothes, so
he uses.

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Soap is laundered and
communicates clear.

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Dear Jesus, where did you find?
Him right on Gumball, weirdly,

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yeah.
And so he said, look, I'm not

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looking at the apps.
I'm not going on other dates.

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He's like, you can do what you
want, but I'm just gonna tell

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you that.
And I was like, you know what?

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Whoa, same actually.
That was like a bonus double

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green flag.
Yeah, because it was like, let

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me tell you what I'm doing, but
I'm not doing it as a way to

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manipulate you or influence you,
right.

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But I'm just letting you know
cuz then you're like, well, that

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feels.
Nice.

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Yeah, like no controlling
tendencies so far, which is good

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and important.
We did have a misunderstanding

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about meeting up on last Sunday,
I think.

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Yeah.
And he assumed that I would be

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free in the evening, but
actually I was free all day and

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not in the evening.
And, like, neither of us talked

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about it.
And so we ended up not seeing

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each other.
And instead of being, you know,

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weird about it or mad about it,
next time I saw him, he simply,

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kindly and directly, you know,
communicated.

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It was incredible.
I know.

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Oh my God, who is this Unicorn?
What will we call him?

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Yeah, OK, we're gonna give him a
name.

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And maybe this is jinxing it
too.

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I don't know.
So I think we're going to call

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him Mr. High Rise because he
lives in one of those lux

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apartments downtown.
Love it.

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OK.
So Mr. High Rise, Mr. High Rise,

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I was going a different
direction when you said high

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rise.
But you know, that's, it's, it's

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his housing that's good.
Do you?

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Claire, do you remember?
I don't know if you remember.

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OK, let's go back into the
vault.

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The Vault?
The Vault of us.

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The Archive of us.
OK.

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So, yeah, before you and I were
friends.

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I think we, you know, met before
we'd seen each other.

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Yeah.
We like knew of each other.

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Sure, at work we were in this
ridiculous meeting.

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What?
That's never happened to me.

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What are you?
Told not in the history of all

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of academics, never.
We were in this ridiculous

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meeting and it was to plan an
event for Women's History Month.

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OK.
And so it was hilariously had

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been assigned to a man to
organize this meeting and he was

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just doing what he was told.
So no shape there, but there

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were seven of us women,
including you and me.

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Yeah.
And again, I knew who you were.

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I knew you a bit, but not.
We hadn't really talked or hung

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out, I think, at that point.
And, you know, so the man in

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charge of this meeting was like,
look, I'm a dude.

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I don't think I should be
planning this.

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He's like, so I'm just going to
be here and you all figure out

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what you want to do.
Very appropriate.

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Yeah.
And so this other woman in the

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meeting with us kind of went off
on this just bizarre tangent.

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She's like, you know, OK, like
sometimes women, like, come in

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and out of the workforce.
Sure, that's true.

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Cool.
She's like.

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So instead of thinking of like,
you know, like women have to do

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more of the housework and so
they're delayed in their career,

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she's like, I like to put a
positive spin on that.

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Oh, I know like immediately my
back is up already.

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I'm like, that's that's not
cool.

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Yes, right.
You're like, what what?

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I mean, if you're sure, if
you're making a choice, that's

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one thing.
But when it's an expectation?

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Yes.
Right, that the woman puts her

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career on hold, accepts a lower
salary, right, a less

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prestigious job, etcetera, to
take care of the house and

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children and launch the man's
career.

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This is where I have a bit of a.
Problem, and I'm really like

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going deep to find the positive
spin there.

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Right.
So she's like, I know what we're

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going to do, like what we're
going to do.

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She's telling us cool.
She's like, I like to think of

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work as a playground, right?
And sometimes you want to like

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play and then you leave the
playground and then you come

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back and then she's like, I know
what we could do.

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Each of our talks could be about
a different playground piece of

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equipment like Dear.
I can do.

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The things and you can talk
about the slide and she's like

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going on and on.
And I was finally like, I cannot

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take one more 2nd of this.
And so I said no.

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I said look, I don't like that
idea.

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The metaphor does not carry.
You know me, I can be direct if

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I need to be good.
Yeah.

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So I said no, I'm not going to
do that.

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I was under the impression we
were here to talk about work we

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were doing in our disciplines.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Important.
Stuff right and then you, my

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wonderful friend, you, you know,
try to put your own sort of

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thing in and you're like, well,
you know, I just, you know,

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thinking about women and I don't
know, probably adversity or

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hardships or whatever we were
talking about.

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You're like, I like to think of
that home.

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And still I rise and I just
laughed because in my mind it

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was a Dick joke.
And you we're so kind.

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You like laughed with me.
And I'm like, OK, that is here's

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my girl.
I don't think you remember that.

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I I remember it, dude.
It was funny.

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Remember I probably
disassociated when I thought I

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was going to have to be a
swinger around by and so I was

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probably just in another place
zoned out as I am like I often

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do.
But I love that our roots were a

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Dick joke.
But I don't even like, I don't

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remember.
But like it's in there.

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I think it's embedded.
No one else left but you did.

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I love that.
Oh.

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Actually, the man that was
running the meeting also left.

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That makes sense because I know
who the man was, but I I love

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that we were the only two that
see that shows that this was

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meant to be.
Already on the wavelength we

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were.
On the wavelength, and that was

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like a long time ago.
Yeah, a long time.

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Ago like pre pandemic 2018.
Yeah, that was quite some time.

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OK, so my God, amazing.
Pivot, I'm sorry, I've gone on

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for.
No, I love that.

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Tripped on memory.
Land of a memory you don't

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remember.
It's just I'm like, do I need

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help?
Yeah.

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No, no, it was a minor thing.
And I understand disassociating

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and then immediately forgetting
all the stupid meanings that

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we're a part of because that is
a big feature of our lives.

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We have two for survival.
Disassociate.

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Exactly.
So let's get on to the main

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event, OK, which is talking
about The Real Housewives of

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Salt Lake City.
Now, I would say that this is

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one of my very favorite shows on
television.

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Do you agree?
You know, I do.

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I'm I'm generally a reality TV
girly and but there's, you know,

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clearly something special about
this show.

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Absolutely.
I've been watching since season

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1 as they came out.
So I've been along for this

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whole ride.
No catch up a long time.

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What?
Maybe a little catch up like in

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the middle of a season or
whatever.

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Because like I said, I do host
watch parties.

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So sometimes I will wait and
watch as they come out, but then

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often I have to go watch them
again because, you know,

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sometimes people have some
drinks.

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Our friends can never stop
talking, and so they're talking

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over the episode nonstop.
And so I miss a lot.

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So then sometimes I have to go
back and rewatch.

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Yes.
Yeah.

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That's fair.
You need to share what you call

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these gatherings.
I think it's relevant.

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Oh yeah, sure.
So I have a text thread group

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text to organize these and the
text thread is called Garbage

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Trash, Horse.
I love it.

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Yeah, which, if you're not
familiar with The Real

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Housewives, comes from Season 3.
I think sometimes they blur

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together.
When Lisa Barlow lost her shit

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on Meredith and there was some
allegation that she had given

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someone a blowjob for jazz
tickets.

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That's right.
I remember that storyline.

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Yep.
You're like, come on now, fair

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exchange.
No, not for jazz tickets.

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Well, if they were a boxer front
row or something.

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But no, not for jazz.
No, you're like, no.

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I'm like front row of my Niners
I might give you, but jazz

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tickets, come on.
That's I mean I'm like OK, cuz I

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know you're the sporty girl and
so.

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I'm not that sporty, but.
No, but like you know your

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teams, especially in comparison
to me.

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Well, in comparison to you, yes.
Cuz I'm like fair exchange.

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Yeah, so she.
Called her a garbage trash whore

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and that is the name of our text
thread.

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Although I might change it,
we'll have to see.

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We'll talk about that later.
Have you seen the Ray Finds clip

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where he reads that tirade from
Lisa?

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No, the garbage trash.
Hort Oh my goodness, no.

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I mean, you know who Ray finds
is he's an extremely a good

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actor and very proper and yes,
yes, English.

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And they had him on.
Watch what happens live.

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And he read that monologue.
Amazing.

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It was so great.
I have to watch that you have

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that sounds like a treat.
It was a treat.

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That's very cool.
All right, so I feel like the

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show is kind of having a bit of
a moment right now.

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It's been popular since it
premiered, but I feel like

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lately it's getting even more
celebrity attention.

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I just mentioned Ray Fiennes,
but for example, I know these

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got passed around a lot.
They were the clips from The

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Late Show with Stephen Colbert,
when John Oliver, Sir John

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Oliver, I believe that's right.
Endorsement exactly.

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Discussed his love for the show.
Yeah.

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He called The Real Housewives of
Salt Lake City the most

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magnificent monsters on
television.

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Amazing description and describe
them as human hand grenades who

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willfully pull their own and
each other's pins out for your

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entertainment.
I mean, I think that's fair.

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I think that's the perfect way
to describe them, especially as

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the seasons have gone on,
because it's like, you know it,

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it's like we often talk about if
we start dating something,

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something, sorry, I mean,
sometimes that's.

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Accurate.
I know, Freudian slip like Mr.

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Shitty Pants.
Yes, sorry, that definitely

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constitutes something, but like
someone that you know, like

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you're like, Oh my God, they
have clean clothes.

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They have you know, it it you
have to lean into it and like

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take a moment to get used to it
and I feel like in the same way

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the housewives are like we're
having fun together.

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This is really nice.
I know, let me bring up

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something from like 6 months ago
about you being like a raging

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bitch and, you know, drop it
into the combo like a wee hand

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grenade.
But he's not the only one that

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loves them.
No, like there's so many.

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I feel like every time you go on
Instagram you see like another

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big celebrity being asked who
their real their favorite

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franchise is.
There's Rihanna, Emma Stone,

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Seth Rogen.
I saw Julia Roberts this week

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too.
And Jennifer Lawrence, you.

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Saw her in person.
Oh yeah, she just came over for

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some coffee.
No, actually it's a.

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Massager excipital wedge.
She, she was my occipital wedge,

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my human ocital wedge.
That, that would be lovely,

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actually.
But no, like a wee clip of them

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talking about their show,
whatever that show is.

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But it's her favorite.
Yeah, as it should be.

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Yes, it should be everyone's
favorite, Absolutely.

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Have you seen any of the other
franchises?

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Like parts because my, my kids
really like them.

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Yeah.
So I think the one that I've

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seen the most is probably the
New York 1.

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The old one.
Or the new one?

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Both.
Because there's still some old

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timers in there, right?
Like that have been in there?

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No.
They wiped the cast completely.

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They did, yeah.
There was like, I can't remember

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what season.
I think they did 12 seasons with

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the original cast.
So that would have been like,

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you know, the Countess, right,
and Bethenny Frankel, right?

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Some of those people, they
completely we got rid of all of

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them and brought a new crew in.
Wow.

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Behind.
Well, I wouldn't bother.

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I've watched the two seasons
that are out with the new cast

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of New York, and it's kind of
boring.

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It's more boring than something
for sure.

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Now I do.
I love Jenna Lyons very much.

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She's incredible.
Yeah.

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So watching Jenna Lyons is
incredible.

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Yeah, just generally she's like
a very cool human.

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Absolutely, yes.
So that was really fun.

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But a lot of the rest of them
have this thing that you see on

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reality TV show where they're
too worried about their image to

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really make good TV like this.
Right to relax into it or be

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willing to make like a fool of
themselves, yes.

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Or.
Not a fool of that sound some

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kind, but just let it go.
Yeah, so the New York cast, they

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just seem to try to curate
themselves, if that makes sense.

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And I do not get that sense from
the ladies of Salt.

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Lake no, there's no censorship
there at all.

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Like it's it's just all on the
table, which is honesty.

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What I think is is good about it
because they are not trying to

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front.
No, yeah, they seem.

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Now I know to some extent
reality TV is not staged, not

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scripted, but it's guided,
right?

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So I think that probably the way
these Real Housewife shows go is

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they try to get people drunk,
right?

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So alcohol is a big deal
because?

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It's always involved.
Yeah, you can definitely get.

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Really good television when
horse people are tipsy.

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So that's probably what they do.
And then I've heard that the

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producers will sort of try to
nudge them into, like, a topic

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or whatever.
Yeah, but it's not scripted,

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right?
They don't have, you know,

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something they're reading or
whatever.

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Although occasionally you'll
notice that I feel like,

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especially with Lisa, they drop
insults that I think they've

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practiced in front of the
mirror. 100% like it's like she

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has a wee notes on the notes app
on her phone of like this would

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be a great one to wheel I or
yeah maybe she like goes to AI

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for them and collects them.
Oh that would be interesting.

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That would be a good use of AI.
Although I think the garbage

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trash whore was a hot mic type
of thing.

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I think that was definitely not
something she had practiced.

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She was just so upset that just
came out of her mouth.

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Well, and I think that, sorry,
I'll say this in my American

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voice, voice or nobody gout
Dick, but I think that was

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spontaneous too, because I, I
feel like you can.

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That seemed very rehearsed.
Really.

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Yeah.
Because I saw a clip where she

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was saying it to other people,
and I don't know if she was

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saying it to them first.
And then you sit in the show.

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But, I mean, possibly because,
like, Gite isn't a thing that

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springs to my mind on a daily
basis.

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Yeah.
Like it's, you know, I don't

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think about Gite often.
I don't.

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I feel like that was the a
workshopped really insult.

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Yeah, absolutely I do.
It's a good one regardless.

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It's a good one.
Well, that was a question I was

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going to ask you.
The best insult on the show and

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I think it's just hands down, no
contest, right?

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It's.
It was just so expensive.

452
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Yeah, clearly.
Gout Dick sucker I I mean.

453
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,160
That is top quality work.
It's.

454
00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,520
It's everything and it was like,
it was like the shield on the

455
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,720
edge and the like.
I don't know, you're the

456
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,200
scientist is guy only.
Does guy only affect old people?

457
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,320
I feel.
Like it does, right?

458
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,840
I don't think that's true.
I think it's more likely to

459
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,080
affect old people.
I actually don't know that much

460
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,720
about gout.
I will be honest, it's not

461
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,880
really my area.
I'm so surprised why?

462
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,640
Why it's it's like an old people
association thing though, right?

463
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,520
Like shingles or something.
Like young people get it, but it

464
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,800
feels like it feels older.
People, yeah, I think it's more

465
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,960
likely to be with age.
And I did actually look it up

466
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,880
because I was like, can you get
gout Dick?

467
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,720
Because normally gout I love.
That you Google that.

468
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,360
Well, gout's in the joints
usually, right?

469
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,280
It's usually like fingers and
toes, extremities, joints.

470
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,720
It's not.
I wouldn't have put that

471
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,280
together so.
Unless you've got a magical Dick

472
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,040
with a joint in it.
So that's, well, that would be

473
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,800
weird.
Although a lot of mammals have

474
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760
a, a penis bone, like an actual
bone, right?

475
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,200
Like we say a boner, but like
there's not a bone in there,

476
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,560
it's just blood flow.
But quite a few mammals do have

477
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,680
that that baculum or penis bone.
And see, This is why you got a

478
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,240
trash talk with a scientist,
because you learn these.

479
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,680
That's the word.
That's why they say boner.

480
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960
That makes so, so much.
Sense, I mean, I think because

481
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960
it feels hard, right?
I don't think you have to

482
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,200
actually know about like a penis
bone.

483
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,120
Yeah, we're like.
But anyway.

484
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
But anyway, right, so get back
to the end.

485
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,120
That was perfection.
I do have a couple runners up,

486
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:29,600
though.
Oh.

487
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,240
Yeah, what are they Tell me.
Well, Mary is always amazing

488
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560
with the insults.
Just the 1 liners and they're

489
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,640
just, they're delivered cold and
like not rehearsed.

490
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,520
Oh, I'm sure.
Mary is not rehearsing them.

491
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,400
No, Lisa does, I think.
But but Mary's got the wit, I

492
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,240
feel like.
So it just comes out.

493
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,440
She's very funny, yes.
Who did she call?

494
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,760
I'm trying to remember.
She called someone A.

495
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,880
Bucket face.
Just like a great.

496
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,240
Description, which is kind of
amazing.

497
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,200
A bucket face.
Yeah.

498
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240
And then my other favorite one
was a little bit of a sleeper.

499
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,920
It was in one of the
confessionals Meredith called

500
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,760
Brittany.
Just a sad specimen.

501
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,840
That's what she kind of is.
That.

502
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,040
That's fair.
Yeah.

503
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,520
She's an interesting specimen,
that is for sure.

504
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,160
So.
No shade on her, but maybe a

505
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,240
little.
What was your favorite moment

506
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,200
this season in Season 6?
You know, I think, I think it

507
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,720
was the play, the Greek tragedy.
That was amazing.

508
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Because it was, I mean, you
knew, you knew it was not going

509
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,720
to be good.
No, like you knew it.

510
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,360
You knew it wasn't going to be
good, but like it was like it

511
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:37,760
was like to the jugular.
Savage.

512
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,800
And I think the dramatic
movement and the fact that they

513
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,040
all were like, oh, it's me and,
you know, yeah, they were

514
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080
sitting with their little coated
color scarves and things on.

515
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,160
Oh, my goodness.
And you know it.

516
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,920
But I think there's something
about maybe Greek tragedy

517
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,160
generally or just being in
Greece.

518
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,680
It's like a foreshadowing as
well, you know, of like what's

519
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,520
to come or their fate if they
don't do something to change

520
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200
this trajectory that they're all
out of destruction.

521
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560
And so it almost felt like a
warning.

522
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,760
I don't know, maybe I'm going
to.

523
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200
Deep down to I actually love
that and I wanna keep talking

524
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320
about that for a minute right,
because isn't kind of a theme.

525
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240
I mean again, you're the
humanities person, but well as.

526
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,520
We see them like.
Well, because you didn't know

527
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,680
about hygiene practices in the
1300s.

528
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,520
No, I'm Morador.
I'm Morador.

529
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520
Yeah, that is slightly more
embarrassing, though not my

530
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,840
subject area like gout.
Like, gout is not mine, right?

531
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,680
We don't have to know everything
about everything.

532
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,880
But isn't kind of one of the
themes in Greek mythology that

533
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,240
like, you can't escape your
feet?

534
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Yes, like you, you have to
confront it.

535
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,680
There's no hiding.
Right, like Oedipus, right like

536
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,720
fate was the like the Oracle
said he would kill his father

537
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,120
and marry his mother, right.
And so he leaves, right.

538
00:25:56,120 --> 00:26:00,520
But that leaving actually is
what made it happen for that to

539
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,000
happen.
Well, and the fact that after

540
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,840
they had that, like they tried
to get deep with Meredith on

541
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,080
their concerns.
Oh yeah, like directly after the

542
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,120
play and then, you know, Bronwyn
had like a maybe a kind of a

543
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:20,080
come to Jesus but moment.
But a lot of the other ones

544
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,920
seemed like undisturbed.
How awesome was it when Meredith

545
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,800
whipped out drug tests?
That was amazing.

546
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,600
That was we're all going to take
them.

547
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Incredible.
Yeah, just incredible work.

548
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,520
Just had them lying around.
What was your favorite clip?

549
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,800
Oh boy, it's so hard to pick.
But I have to say I really loved

550
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,160
the Below Deck crossover.
So the episodes on the yacht

551
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,920
with Captain Jason?
Yes, and the staff.

552
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,920
Yep.
I just thought that was money.

553
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,120
It was priceless.
And they're like, we faces when

554
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,040
they would come out to like,
give them food and they'd just

555
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,920
be like, excuse me, what?
Like trying to get in.

556
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:04,040
And also a brilliant moment from
that was when they threw, yes,

557
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320
threw Jared's cuddly toy in the
water.

558
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Do you think that was mean or
good?

559
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Well, I think that was pretty
mean.

560
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
I don't think you can actually
justify that.

561
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Now, did I laugh really hard?
Yes, as the Jared Unicorn bobbed

562
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,720
in the water.
And I sounded like.

563
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,040
Which?
By the way, we've seen him on

564
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,360
the APS many times.
Oh, Jared.

565
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,200
Yeah, many times.
Oh, my God.

566
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,280
Actually, that was one of my
favorite moments, too.

567
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,320
It's kind of like a throwaway.
Like, OK, here's the other thing

568
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,560
about Salt Lake City as compared
to the other franchises.

569
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,200
Yeah, is like you'll have for
some of these other ones, you

570
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,120
know, like even Atlanta or New
Jersey, where like, you'll have

571
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,880
an episode where like, there's
30 minutes where not a ton

572
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,280
happens.
Yeah, Salt Lake packs it in.

573
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,160
It's just like thing after
thing.

574
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Yeah.
And drama, revelations.

575
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480
Yes, all the things.
Oh my God, Constantly.

576
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,400
It's incredible.
Arrest, jail time.

577
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
I mean, there's been jail time
in the others, but I, I don't

578
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,520
think it was this exciting.
I didn't even.

579
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,320
Talk about Jen Shaw.
But yeah, oh geez, what was I

580
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,480
going to say?
I've lost my try to my train of

581
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,320
thought.
I was so, so excited.

582
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
About there's no gaps.
Yeah, no gaps.

583
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:12,920
Oh, Jared.
Yes.

584
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,800
No, Jared.
Yes, that reminds me.

585
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,200
So yes, the scene when they go
on that stupid RV camping trip

586
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,920
at the very beginning, do you
remember?

587
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,080
That yeah, I think that was like
my least favorite part.

588
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,000
OK, but there were a couple of
golden moments.

589
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,720
Yes, right.
Having to do with Jared.

590
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,200
Yeah.
Remember where Brittany says she

591
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040
has an announcement?
Oh God.

592
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Yes, and they're all like.
Yeah, and she's like Jared and I

593
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,040
got engaged and then we got
unengaged 2 weeks later.

594
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,680
You're like, OK, that's that's
an announcement.

595
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Yeah.
And then immediately cut to

596
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Heather in confessional.
I don't think Brittany

597
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,560
understands the nature of an
announcement.

598
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,360
What what it actually entails.
Yeah.

599
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Yeah.
And then Whitney, you know, asks

600
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560
if they're still together.
And Brittany says yes, I think

601
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,960
it was Whitney.
But then Whitney was like.

602
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520
But I see him on dates at
Lifetime Fitness all the time.

603
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Yeah.
And he introduces me to them.

604
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Oh.
My God, pure gold.

605
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,720
Yeah, like maybe she also needs
to define dating as well as

606
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,360
announcements.
Well, didn't.

607
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,880
I mean, they've broken up like
it's got to be more than 20

608
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360
times and gotten back together
more than 20 times at this

609
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,240
point.
It's like so many times, Yeah,

610
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280
they, it's, it's on, it's off.
It's yeah.

611
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,960
Well, because Jared is a fuck
boy, a middle-aged fuck boy, and

612
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Brittany has no self respect.
Well, and I just think that he

613
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,520
loves the attention of being
featured on the show every now

614
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,520
and again.
Obviously.

615
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Yep.
Because you know the attachment.

616
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,040
Or what would the word be?
You know his name.

617
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
He thinks I'm in Utah.
I'm in Osmond.

618
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,240
That's it.
I'm golden.

619
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520
Yeah.
Yeah, unfortunately it sounds

620
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,600
like it's working for him if
Whitney's seen him on dates all

621
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,360
the time at Lifetime Fitness.
Yeah, I mean, but I haven't seen

622
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,960
him on an app recently, but I
mean, when I say recently, a few

623
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,120
months ago, he was definitely on
there.

624
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Oh yeah, it was just a few
months ago.

625
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640
Did you swipe on him?
We always do.

626
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Like I, I think I sent it to
you.

627
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400
I'm saying we always do because
we had like AI, actually, we had

628
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,240
like a plan.
I've never seen him on the apps

629
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,600
myself.
He's never liked me on the apps

630
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
So funny.
See, I, I do the cheap version,

631
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,760
I just, they pop up and I swipe
and I just I mean I why did I

632
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,200
swipe?
Why?

633
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,200
I mean, I don't believe that I
would be his type, so I don't.

634
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,000
And that's not being self
deprecating.

635
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,400
That's just like, no, it's.
Probably because you have self

636
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,480
respect.
You can't, you know.

637
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Although some people may
question that after the last

638
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,720
episode.
But there's been lots of therapy

639
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
and we're good.
But yes, we're all good.

640
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,920
But I just, I don't know why I
just always swipe right on him

641
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,400
for funsies, like just for
funsies, just to see Yeah, the

642
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320
plot, like what would happen.
Oh, I hope that.

643
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,200
You go on a date sometime.
Oh my God.

644
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,320
But I don't know if I could go
that far that would be.

645
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Well, we'll see.
Yeah, let's.

646
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Yeah, that would be hard.
We'll see how they play out, OK.

647
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Who do you think?
Well, this is probably obvious

648
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,600
too.
Who do you think is the biggest

649
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,760
villain on the show right now?
Lisa Barlow, of course, like

650
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,840
100%.
Yeah.

651
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,880
And.
She really stepped into the

652
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,440
vacuum that Jen Shaw vacated.
Yeah, but there's like a it's

653
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,560
like sometimes I feel like sad
for her because I'm like, I

654
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720
think there's a lot going on
for, you know, because like the

655
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,080
projection of the wealth, the
name dropping the, you know, I

656
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
think that's symptomatic.
Of a massive insecurity.

657
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,440
Yeah, I'm like, I'm not trying
to be too armchair psychologist

658
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,400
to bite it, but like, but I
think this stuff is, is that

659
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,320
it's like to me it's on a
different level with the other

660
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,360
women because it's it gets like
mean, like really mean.

661
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,960
Yeah, like upsetting, you know,
because a lot of it is just, you

662
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,400
know, these wild outlandish
comments.

663
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,080
But like to me, like she gets
like stuck in.

664
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,160
Oh yeah, yeah, big time.
And the shooting and the

665
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640
throwing things.
And I don't, I just.

666
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Yeah, the throwing things.
Yeah, I think she sees red, like

667
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,600
as much as I think she's
practiced like some of these

668
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
insults in the mirror that she's
girls at the other women.

669
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200
I think it's very genuine and
she like becomes unhinged.

670
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,840
Yeah.
And like, you know, we all have

671
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,240
our moments there.
There's not one of us, but

672
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,760
they're, they're like a lot of
moments, like they're frequent.

673
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Well, this is the thing about
Salt Lake City.

674
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,240
I think the cast is just
dynamite.

675
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Like every single one of these
people is ridiculous and

676
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,280
outrageous and yet at times
sympathetic.

677
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Yes, there's like Lisa, yeah,
there's like a wee.

678
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Yeah.
Cuz they've had moments where

679
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,400
like, you know, somebody will be
being vulnerable or something

680
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,240
happens and they're genuinely
like, oh, that's terrible.

681
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360
Like when Bronwyn's been talking
about issues with Todd or, you

682
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800
know, sometimes they'll show up
and be like, Oh my God.

683
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,120
That's awful.
Yeah.

684
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960
Or like Mary's son.
That is just a heartbreaking

685
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,120
thread.
Yep.

686
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680
I'm glad that nobody has been a
bitch over that because that

687
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,280
would be too low.
Oh yeah, that's way over the

688
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,920
line.
Right.

689
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,040
They're always screaming at each
other like not to talk about my

690
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,360
family and husbands and then
they immediately talk about

691
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,720
someone else's and husbands,
right?

692
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,000
But you got to leave kids side
of.

693
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,680
It you got to leave, well,
especially like that, right?

694
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Yes, like you've got to leave
that alone.

695
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Yeah, 100%.
That's like that's off.

696
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Limits, definitely.
All right.

697
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Out of this whole cast, who is
the one that frustrates you the

698
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560
most or that you dislike the
most?

699
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Oh, I don't.
I don't know if I can answer

700
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,440
that because I.
Think it frustrates?

701
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,200
I don't know.
It will, it oscillates because

702
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,800
you're just kind of like, why
are why are you being like this?

703
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Or yeah, goodness.
In terms of who frustrates me

704
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
the most, I think maybe
Brittany.

705
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Yeah.
And I think it's just because, I

706
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,840
mean, not to be judgy, I'm going
to be judgy.

707
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800
See, Judge, it's just going to
be judgy.

708
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,800
I think.
I mean, the storyline with her

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,639
kids is interesting.
And again, no shade, because

710
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,639
raising children is not for the
phantom.

711
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,280
Part yeah, but I actually do
want to throw a little shade on

712
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,760
that because there have been a
couple scenes with one of her

713
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,840
daughters.
Yeah, right.

714
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,800
And her daughter has, you know,
basically said or alleged or

715
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,800
whatever you want to say that
Brittany is so interested in

716
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,480
chasing men that she abandoned
them.

717
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,040
Yes.
So when they were teenagers, she

718
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,639
basically just left them to
their own devices so she could

719
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,520
chase a man.
So I am going to throw shade on

720
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520
that.
Yeah, because didn't she marry

721
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,000
him?
And then their claim was she

722
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520
parented their child more than
like them.

723
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,520
And her daughter seems like very
emotionally mature, like

724
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,120
articulate, very cute, lovely.
Human and absolutely seems like

725
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040
she's done some therapy and she
probably needed it after having

726
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,280
Brittany as a mother.
Yeah, I, I so I, I would say she

727
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,960
frustrates me the most and even
with her interactions with the

728
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,000
other women because it's like
she doesn't do herself any

729
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,400
favors.
Oh no.

730
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,440
You know, like she.
Has zero ability to read a room.

731
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,280
Yeah.
And then she gets confused

732
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,240
because she's like, well,
everybody else said horrible

733
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,640
things.
Why are you piling on me?

734
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,880
And it's because we're like read
the room, like time and place.

735
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,400
Yes, right.
You can't just like go from

736
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,360
nothing, we're having a pleasant
conversation to suddenly telling

737
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
people that Merediths husband
has a mistress.

738
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,120
Right, what it's like, okay, we
didn't build up to that or like

739
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,280
are you telling me that for her
good or for your benefit and.

740
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Clearly her, but she's just, she
just seems kind of dumb.

741
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,680
I'm sorry.
Well, and even that first like

742
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080
interaction she had with Mary
where she said something about

743
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,680
how she grew up and she said,
oh, I grew up like poor and Mary

744
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,880
was like, I didn't draw poor and
like she immediately or no, that

745
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,320
was Bronwyn.
Was that Bronwyn?

746
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,760
No, no, that was Mary.
That was but she said something

747
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,080
to Bronwyn where she called her
fashion thing a costume.

748
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,800
That's right.
It was the same episode, right?

749
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
But it was Brittany said that
about being poor, right, Like

750
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,720
and you're just like girl, like
you've just met this person,

751
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,120
like just.
Yeah.

752
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,320
Bring it, bring it down a notch.
Yeah, although she's not

753
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,320
actually a housewife, right?
She's still a friend of she

754
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,880
doesn't.
She hasn't had her snowflake.

755
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,920
Snowflake.
No snowflake for her.

756
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Do you think she'll get that
one?

757
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,120
I hope not.
Yeah, I don't know that she

758
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,760
will.
I think that was a fun feature

759
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,520
about like the Jared Osmond,
like Utah celebrity.

760
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Well.
Yeah, she's a fun sideshow, but

761
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,360
she's like, really one note and
like, I don't think she's, you

762
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,320
know, as as funny as some of the
rest of these women.

763
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,720
Yeah, there wouldn't be like the
character arc.

764
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,760
I feel like she's more a
caricature.

765
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,320
Yes, herself.
Yes, of her own self.

766
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,760
Yeah, she's like a caricature of
a Pick me girl.

767
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Yes, it very much a pick me
girl, I think.

768
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,920
Those vibes for sure.
Yeah.

769
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,880
Is she the one on the frustrate
you the most?

770
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,360
Or or who gives you the the?
I would say so.

771
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Yeah.
Yeah, who who's your favorite?

772
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600
Oh, OK.
Well, my favorite, and this is

773
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,280
maybe kind of unfair, my
favorite is Angie K But

774
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,400
important disclaimer, I know
Angie just a little bit.

775
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,880
In real life, you do.
I do.

776
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,400
Now, she's an acquaintance.
Like, we're not friend.

777
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
I'm not going to presume like,
you know, yes, nothing like

778
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,320
that.
But I do.

779
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,840
I do know her just a little bit.
I've gone to her Lunatic Fringe

780
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,880
salons for a really long time,
well over a decade, I think.

781
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,280
I've been to three different
locations, and I go to the

782
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,280
Holiday 1 now.
And Angie, every time I interact

783
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,880
with her, which isn't very
often, is just the most lovely

784
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160
person.
Like, she is just lovely,

785
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,400
genuinely seems to care about
people.

786
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,360
So Angie is my favorite.
I think she tries to keep it

787
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520
classy on the show, as classy as
one can keep it on the show.

788
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,240
Yeah.
Yeah.

789
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,880
So that's not fair.
Apart from Angie Ki, don't know,

790
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120
You know, I would.
I would have said Heather

791
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,680
before.
I really like Heather a lot.

792
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,000
I think that she's gotten a
little preachy for me this

793
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,040
season, you know, and I kind of
like that she wants to be the

794
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,760
peacemaker or something.
But yeah, she she's kind of

795
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080
acting like she's the arbiter of
everything and like that she's

796
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,560
that's sunk her just a little
bit in my estimation.

797
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
That's fair.
I because it's almost like she's

798
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,120
become like a silent Oracle.
Like I don't feel like there was

799
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000
much of her in the season.
Yeah, not a lot of her life, but

800
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,040
she is lecturing people.
Not stuff, but it's like, it's

801
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,000
like that silent judgement thing
where she's just like I'm

802
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,840
observing.
And yeah, I, I love that you

803
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,760
said that about Auntie K
actually, because my daughter

804
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,600
worked in a grocery store that
Auntie K came into a lot.

805
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,760
And, and she remarked that she
was actually always so kind and

806
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200
polite.
And, you know, because there's a

807
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,080
lot of people like that that are
assholes to service workers and

808
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,640
people in stores.
And, you know, my daughter when

809
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,480
she worked there was like on the
checkout and, you know, it's a

810
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040
posh store, as I would say a
posh grocery store.

811
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,960
And so a lot of people were very
quite condescending.

812
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,320
And she always said Angie K was
so sweet and like always thank

813
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
you and like really kind and
lovely so.

814
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,120
That's good to hear.
Yeah.

815
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Yeah.
Matches my experience.

816
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,400
That's that's we like that.
Yeah, we like that.

817
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,680
All right, who's your favorite?
I do like Angie K, but I kind of

818
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:30,760
love Mary Cosby because to me,
Well, here, there's a couple of

819
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,040
reasons.
Here's why, please.

820
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:38,000
So I feel like she is.
I mean, how do you define a real

821
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200
one but like?
Oh, she is a real one.

822
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Yeah.
There's no mask.

823
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,400
There's no mask, right?
And I mean, she can definitely

824
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,440
come across as harsh at times,
but I think she's a good person

825
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,880
with boundaries.
And I, I also do think that she

826
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:59,840
is the, the most like genuinely
invested because the way she is

827
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,640
acting like in this season,
particularly towards Meredith,

828
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640
like she's genuinely concerned
and she comes to her as a place

829
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,800
like she's cried.
She's just like, I'm so worried

830
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,680
about you.
I love you.

831
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,480
Like I, you know, whereas I
think a lot of the other ones

832
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,400
are just, they kind of mock.
Her a little bit.

833
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,680
You know, for whatever they're
perceiving the issue to be.

834
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,840
But I think that Mary Cosby's
kind of a real one in that

835
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,080
regard where she's just like,
no, I'm actually like, I'm

836
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,360
really worried and I'm having
the courage to say it.

837
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Yeah, Because I, I think that
takes courage.

838
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,240
So yeah, yeah, I just, I kind of
think she's like the real 1.

839
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,240
Well, she's not going to say
something she doesn't mean.

840
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,880
I think that's.
For sure, she's very transparent

841
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:45,040
and I don't think she's as sort
of sensational oriented as the

842
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,800
other ones.
Yeah, I mean, that's been an

843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,840
interesting evolution to watch,
right, Because the first couple

844
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,720
seasons, I feel like there was
quite a bit of focus on the fact

845
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,800
that she'd married her step
grandfather to take over the

846
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,720
Pentecostal church that she
runs, right.

847
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,480
Yeah, which is interesting.
It's a very.

848
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,760
Interesting back story?
Absolutely, yeah.

849
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,360
I mean, that's the other great
thing about this franchise is

850
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,320
the kind of connection to
religion.

851
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,360
So of course, the Mormon LDS
faith, right?

852
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,600
So we see a lot of that with,
you know, Lisa, Jen Shaw when

853
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,320
she was on the show, Heather,
Whitney, Brittany to some

854
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,440
extent, right?
Monica for that short but very

855
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,120
brutal season that she was on,
right?

856
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Oh my God.
So a lot of them have these kind

857
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,840
of backstories with Mormonism,
which is pretty interesting.

858
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,680
And I think people are really
fascinated by it from outside

859
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,240
the hive, you know, inside, but
also outside because it's just

860
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,640
weird.
Well, and it makes like normal

861
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,920
stuff weird.
Yeah, like sex or drinking, you

862
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,000
know, whereas in another
franchise, like people just

863
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,280
drink and it's.
But here it's like, are you

864
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,040
drinking?
And you know, the weirdness from

865
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,440
within the hive, even where
you're like, Oh my God, Mormons

866
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480
are Mormons are drinking.
Mormons own a tequila brand.

867
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,320
Like it doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I do love that these

868
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,600
women, whether they're kind of
Mormon or ex Mormon or Mormon.

869
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,960
2.0 is Lisa likes to describe
herself.

870
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,640
They're all just drinking.
It's not like the secret lives

871
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,880
of Mormon wives.
They're all just.

872
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,800
Drinking, they are, they're all
just doing whatever and, you

873
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,840
know, calling it good, which I
would be so excited for if I

874
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,000
truly believed that Mormonism
had expanded to be like that.

875
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080
But I don't see.
That it has.

876
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
I don't think it has.
I don't think that the Mormon

877
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
church condones drinking at all.
And again, you can see with the

878
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,040
younger ones the secret lives of
Mormon wives.

879
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,800
Yeah, some of them drink, but
they're kind of ex Mormon.

880
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200
And then the good Mormons quote
UN quote, they don't don't

881
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,880
drink, at least not on camera.
Yeah.

882
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,880
And and I do love, you know,
Lisa Barlow.

883
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,760
I love that she's just
unapologetically.

884
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360
She's like, yeah, I'm Mormon and
I own a tequila company and I

885
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,520
drink.
Yeah, right.

886
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,320
Come at me, bro.
Like, I don't care.

887
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,280
I I love that I because I didn't
know anybody like her when I

888
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,640
went to the Mormon church.
No, me not even close.

889
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,760
Yeah, but I admire it.
Yeah.

890
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,880
I like how she's just like, you
know what if what was her quote

891
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,600
like?
I don't care if you don't like

892
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,120
me.
I like me enough for the both of

893
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000
us, which is fair.
I think it's great.

894
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
I think that's absolutely fair.
Yeah.

895
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
And I mean in a in a religion
like Mormonism.

896
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520
That is to be applauded, yeah.
In some sense in terms of not

897
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,960
giving in to to those pressures.
So would you say she's your your

898
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040
favorite and also your least
favorite at one time?

899
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Lisa's kind of gone up and down.
Yeah, for me, like there's been

900
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,760
some seasons and episodes or
even moments like in an episode

901
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,640
where I think I really like her,
and then at other times she's

902
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,000
just being ridiculous.
But you know what?

903
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,360
Love her or hate her, she is a
great character on this show.

904
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960
I mean, she's amazing.
She is like the villain, like

905
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,520
what's she gonna do next?
And that like event she held

906
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,200
like that was like next level.
Ridiculous lunch with all the

907
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200
poster boards dismissed all over
them, Yes.

908
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,360
And what?
Was that?

909
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,880
I was so happy.
I was just laughing nonstop.

910
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,800
It was so great.
What did that prove?

911
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,040
What?
That was?

912
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Fantastic television.
That was kind of mental.

913
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Oh, it was mental, but it was it
was great.

914
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,520
It it is I mean, they really do
have a secret sauce yeah.

915
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,840
That the other ones, because I
have seen a wee bit of the LA

916
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,040
like Beverly Hills one or
whatever they call it.

917
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,480
And you would think that in that
environment, that one would be

918
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,640
like the, you know, shockers and
like living big.

919
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640
And I I it doesn't even touch
like.

920
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,760
Salt Lake City, I haven't seen
it recently, but yeah, it's not

921
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,040
nearly as good.
Yeah.

922
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,880
We're we're entertaining if
nothing if nothing else.

923
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,320
Absolutely.
Oh, but to get back to the the

924
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Mary Cosby evolution.
So right, so the first couple of

925
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,480
seasons that, you know, her
church and her husband slash

926
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,560
grandfather, yeah, was more of,
you know, the emphasis and like

927
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,840
they kind of had her
participating in some of the

928
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,760
drama directly.
And now she, I mean, she left

929
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,360
the show for a season, right.
And then came back as a friend

930
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,840
of.
And now she's back to full

931
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,160
housewife status.
But now I think she's really

932
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,000
settled into the perfect role
for her.

933
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,200
Yeah, because she's sitting
there, she's friends with them.

934
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,920
She participates on the side and
some of this drama, but mostly

935
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,720
she just runs her mouth.
She's like the Greek chorus.

936
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,040
Yeah.
And no, for real.

937
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,880
And a lot of the things that she
says are spot on.

938
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
And then, you know, a lot of the
other things she says are just

939
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,520
really comical, Like, hilarious.
Yeah.

940
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,280
Well, even the way she's so like
picky about like food.

941
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Oh, it's great.
And the way she won't eat some

942
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,240
of the things that or she orders
the things are just really

943
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,400
hilarious as well.
Oh my God, when she said she

944
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,200
didn't think the shrimp had been
dewormed, Oh my, that was

945
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
hilarious.
I love that part so good.

946
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:56,320
Well, because she also seems to
be the only one who actually

947
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,720
eats all that beautiful food
that they get set in front of

948
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,560
them too.
Well, the others are too busy

949
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,960
yelling, yeah.
Or yeah.

950
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,440
So she's a real 1.
I don't know.

951
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,160
I have a soft spot for her.
I know, I know there's

952
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,640
controversy with the other
stuff.

953
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,240
And you know, obviously it's a
little interesting to marry your

954
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,760
step grandfather, but you know.
It's it's quite a choice.

955
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,320
Did you watch the documentary
about her?

956
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,360
You know, I just actually.
Started it.

957
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,600
OK.
I haven't watched it either.

958
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,360
Maybe we can talk about this a
different time.

959
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Oh yeah.
But I was just curious if you

960
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,000
had, are there any other ones
that like you really like or

961
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,200
that have grown on you or that
you used to like and they've

962
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,800
kind of fallen out of favor for
you?

963
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,880
Yeah, I mean, I like, I can't
believe that it started in 2020.

964
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Like that's a lot of years to
watch somebody's life.

965
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,920
Yeah.
Because obviously everybody

966
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,680
changes.
Yeah, everybody evolves,

967
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,960
hopefully, or not evolves.
It evolves.

968
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,320
And, you know, life events, hard
life events.

969
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Like, you know, you've seen some
of them struggle with sick

970
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,400
parents or things like that.
I don't know about like

971
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Meredith, OK.
Because like, I feel like there

972
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,960
was part of me that, you know,
she seemed to be like the smart

973
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360
one.
Out of everybody, she does have

974
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,560
a law degree.
Yeah.

975
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,360
And so I, I felt like, you know,
but I just, I don't, I don't

976
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,360
know, like I she, she doesn't
seem really fully present or

977
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
invested.
And it's almost got to the point

978
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,880
where she's more conscious about
how she's seen versus just like.

979
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Being heard, Yeah, like we were
kind of talking about earlier,

980
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,960
like some of the other
franchises that's really kind of

981
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,040
ruined them.
Yes.

982
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,440
Yeah.
So maybe she's kind of, yeah,

983
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,360
gone that way a little bit.
Meredith frustrates me as well.

984
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,440
Yeah, I agree with you.
Why?

985
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,080
It's kind of hard to like, I
don't know.

986
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,280
Yeah.
Figure her out.

987
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Yes, exactly.
I don't know.

988
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,080
She seems zoned out a lot of the
time.

989
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Yeah.
And so I do understand why,

990
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,560
like, some of them are concerned
about her substance usage

991
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,320
perhaps.
I mean, who knows?

992
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,400
It looks like when we have watch
parties, we joke about the

993
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,520
zannies.
Yes.

994
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,160
Right.
I mean, sometimes she appears to

995
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,480
be slurring her words.
Yeah.

996
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,400
Or kind of not, you know, really
there.

997
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,040
Yeah.
And you can't diagnose something

998
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,200
from just watching television,
so I'm not trying to do that.

999
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,440
But like sometimes you're like,
OK, Like they're worried I.

1000
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,480
I feel like maybe.
They have a Cy, yeah.

1001
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,880
Yeah.
And I feel there's a lot of just

1002
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,600
the Fashion Week and there's a
performative thing emerging

1003
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,080
there maybe, which I'm sure all
of that is very, very fun and

1004
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520
all, but.
It's like it was really

1005
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
interesting to see her try to
control the narrative after the

1006
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,920
plane flight, right there's.
What's gonna come right there?

1007
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,680
What do you think about that?
I cannot believe this wasn't

1008
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,600
recorded.
I can't believe somebody did not

1009
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,680
just pull out their cell phone
and start recording.

1010
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,800
Like just on the flight, like,
yeah, it's a flight attendant or

1011
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,240
somebody.
Yeah, either one of the cast or

1012
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,080
someone else that was in the
cabin.

1013
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,760
Yeah, right.
Have you seen like all the

1014
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
tweets and real like all I want
for Christmas is the plane

1015
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,200
footage right?
Which is.

1016
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Fair because you're like what
happened?

1017
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,160
Because in that moment, I.
Actually did feel sorry for

1018
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Brittany.
Oh, me, too.

1019
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,160
Because, I mean, it was harsh.
Sure, it was harsh.

1020
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Brittany's ridiculous.
She should not have been saying

1021
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,920
the things she did about
Meredith and Seth.

1022
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,960
Exactly.
Yeah.

1023
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,280
And but at the same time, like,
that was, at least from the

1024
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,080
sounds of it, Yeah.
It was just really way over the

1025
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,200
line.
And relentless.

1026
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,440
And like a bit of a public
spectacle.

1027
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Exactly.
And you'd you don't, you don't

1028
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,040
fuck with things like that in an
airplane like I yeah, yeah, it

1029
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,200
doesn't.
It doesn't seem like the place.

1030
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Yeah, I did enjoy that scene
between Meredith and Mary where

1031
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,880
Meredith was trying to tell Mary
what had happened.

1032
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,280
And like you said, she's a real
1.

1033
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Mary's like, Nope, yeah, I was
there.

1034
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,040
That was not what happened.
Like I know what.

1035
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,880
Happened like, let me gently
correct you.

1036
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,000
And that's what I like about
Mary, because it is, it's just

1037
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,680
like, no, like I'm not going to
let you say that, right?

1038
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,120
I'm not because it's not true.
Right, change the narrative on

1039
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,040
me.
Exactly.

1040
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,040
Yeah.
Have you ever been in Meredith?

1041
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,240
Mark's.
We shop in Park City.

1042
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:12,040
I haven't.
Have you?

1043
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,880
I have it.
It smells weird.

1044
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Is it still there?
I don't know.

1045
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,720
It's been a wee minute since I
went in, but.

1046
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,520
We need to do a field trip to
Park City, we need to go there

1047
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640
and we need to go to Lisa's Vita
Tequila Lounge.

1048
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,320
I would really like to go to the
tequila lounge actually.

1049
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,120
OK, let's plan A.
Week our trip, yeah.

1050
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,920
We'll report back once we do,
yeah.

1051
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,640
Definitely.
That would be very.

1052
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,720
That would be a fun wee
excursion.

1053
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,600
Yeah, I think definitely,
definitely to take.

1054
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,480
I did want to mention one person
who actually has come up in my

1055
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,680
rankings.
If I were going to do a like a

1056
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,160
little power rankings of the
housewife, I would say Bronwyn.

1057
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,280
I really disliked her when she
first came on the show.

1058
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Was it last season?
I yeah, I think this is her

1059
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,600
second season.
Yeah, I think it was last

1060
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,320
season.
I just, I really disliked her.

1061
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,800
I thought she came in really
hot, right?

1062
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,840
Started putting her foot in
things right, and like, causing

1063
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,200
drama, stirring the pot, like
all this stuff.

1064
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,760
And just not a very sympathetic
character.

1065
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,640
But I will say she has been way
better this season.

1066
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,560
I've liked her a lot better and
she's been more open and real

1067
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,280
and vulnerable, which is really
helpful.

1068
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,280
So not only like the marriage
struggles with Todd, right?

1069
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,320
So boy that man, not a fan, not
a fan.

1070
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,800
Not a fan.
But then also the scenes with

1071
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,240
her mother.
Her mother is terrible.

1072
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,560
Terrible.
And you can kind of see why she

1073
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,440
married somebody like Todd.
Yeah.

1074
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,040
It's like you married your
mother.

1075
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,080
Yeah.
Like you're seeking that.

1076
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,880
Kind of approval, Yes.
And she even says right, like

1077
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,560
that she, like, Todd's approval
matters more than anyone.

1078
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,200
And you're like, oh, girl.
But yeah, why?

1079
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Yeah.
And so you kind of see like the

1080
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,400
trauma, right, that her mother
has perpetrated, right, Because

1081
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,160
she got pregnant out of wedlock,
right?

1082
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,360
Had the baby, the shame and her
mother still shaming her.

1083
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,760
Which is ridiculous.
Yeah, the child's grown up now.

1084
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,120
And she's clearly a good mom who
has, like, a good relationship

1085
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,640
with her child.
I agree.

1086
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:14,360
And like, or is it 1945?
Like what?

1087
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,520
Yeah.
I mean.

1088
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,520
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, fan of Bronwyn now.

1089
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,920
Really whatever the opposite of
a fan of her mother.

1090
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,040
Muzzy Akat.
What a like name too.

1091
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,040
Hate, hate that woman.
Yeah, you're like not not a fan

1092
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,600
of her mom.
I I think you're right in terms

1093
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,360
of the vulnerability, it's
humanized her.

1094
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,760
Yes.
And you're like, OK, it's like

1095
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,840
where you kind of connect the
dots and you're like, I see why

1096
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,600
you might behave like that
exactly.

1097
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,480
You know, and I think when you
saw high just like scathing and

1098
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,480
mean he was to her and that's
why there's a camera there.

1099
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,080
Can you imagine the way he got
on in the house?

1100
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,360
I mean it just like the cherry
memory at the chair.

1101
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,640
She was like, don't eat the
cherry and he just ate it.

1102
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,520
He just, he seems to have like a
really mean edge.

1103
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,720
Yeah, I agree.
He's got a real mean streak.

1104
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,600
Like manipulative, not not very
nice.

1105
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,600
What do you think of her
outfits?

1106
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,240
Do you think she's had an
evolution there?

1107
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Like, I mean, they're
entertaining.

1108
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,880
Yeah, I'll give her that.
Right.

1109
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360
They're not boring.
So I like that in a housewife.

1110
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,840
She's not boring me.
Yeah.

1111
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680
A lot of times I think they give
try too hard.

1112
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Yes.
But you know, whatever.

1113
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,440
If it brings her joy, then go
for it.

1114
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,880
You're like, why not?
Exactly.

1115
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,000
It brings me joy.
Yeah.

1116
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,240
So hey.
You're like, keep doing it.

1117
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:32,480
Exactly.
I like to see it.

1118
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,720
I feel like they've they've like
calmed a little bit or they're

1119
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:41,360
more wearable.
I mean, some of them it was

1120
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,760
like, is this a Halloween
costume or is this like everyday

1121
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,520
wear?
I know Brittany was correct to

1122
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,400
call that a costume.
Yeah, because it's like, would I

1123
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,360
go to the store?
Could I go?

1124
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,640
To the store, could I push a
shopping cart?

1125
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000
Right.
Like just even from purely

1126
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,040
functional like BS's?
What about what about Whitney

1127
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,480
this season?
What are your thoughts on her?

1128
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:03,800
Whitney.
I used to love Whitney so much.

1129
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,320
I feel like Whitney has kind of
been way too tame the last

1130
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,520
couple of seasons.
Like remember her in season 1

1131
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,720
through 3 where she would just
like get drunk and say whatever

1132
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,760
it was great.
And drop all the cakes.

1133
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,600
There's been no.
Cakes dropped that scene when

1134
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,320
she dropped the cake three times
in a row.

1135
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,480
That's probably my favorite
scene in the entire series of

1136
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,320
incredible.
It was incredible.

1137
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,240
It was pretty incredible.
Maybe the the stress of the the

1138
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,560
company stuff and all of that is
getting to her.

1139
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Yeah, maybe that was kind of
sad.

1140
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,440
That scene between her and
Justin was kind of awful.

1141
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,680
Yeah.
That was a little cringy.

1142
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,080
Probably why you should not ever
go into business with your

1143
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,680
spice.
Well, I think it depends on your

1144
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,160
spouse.
Maybe just don't go into

1145
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,480
business with Justin.
That's that's fair.

1146
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,400
I mean, he wanted to, as I
understand it, sell her stuff as

1147
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,400
a multi level marketing thing
instead of direct sales, which

1148
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,440
is just a really weird choice.
It's a classic Mormon move.

1149
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,880
It is a classic Mormon move.
Yeah.

1150
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,400
The epicenter of MLM.
They love the MLMS.

1151
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,800
Yeah, and it sounded like
Whitney kind of knew better, but

1152
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,480
went along with it.
Yeah.

1153
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,000
And then they got burned, right?
Yeah.

1154
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,160
Yeah.
I don't know.

1155
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,240
I like Whitney.
She's ridiculous, but I like

1156
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,800
her.
I have a soft spot for Whitney

1157
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,240
and I hope that she kind of
comes back into her own in

1158
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,920
future seasons.
It's like she's muted herself a

1159
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,440
little.
Bit she has and I don't like it.

1160
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,280
I need I need my out loud
Whitney Yes, and.

1161
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,240
Little pot stirrer, Yeah.
Swinging on the pole.

1162
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,720
She was right swinging on the
pole.

1163
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:35,880
Whitney.
Where's that Whitney?

1164
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,440
We come home.
To yourself, Yeah, we need her

1165
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,080
back.
Yes, we need outrageous.

1166
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,320
Definitely for sure.
I love it.

1167
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,600
Yeah, All right, we're almost
out of time.

1168
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,880
But let me ask you about the
husband's favorite and least

1169
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,720
favorite husband in the group,
or boyfriend or whatever.

1170
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:56,240
Oh my goodness, that.
I mean, I don't know if I can

1171
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,120
fully answer that question in
terms of like my favorite, like

1172
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,680
who?
Who would I want for my?

1173
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,120
Husband or well, we're not even
doing like a smash or pass or

1174
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,240
something, but like who are you
most like?

1175
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:10,680
Because I just.
That's gross.

1176
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,320
I can't go there.
Like, yeah, you're like maybe

1177
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,520
who is interesting to you?
Who is most sympathetic or least

1178
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,360
sympathetic?
Yeah.

1179
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,080
I mean, we talked about Todd
already.

1180
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,520
We're well, not Todd now.
He's he's definitely my least

1181
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,760
favorite.
I I think he really is abusive

1182
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,280
in his like, like he treats her
like he's disgusted with her.

1183
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,920
And I think that has done a lot
of damage in her Weibrien.

1184
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,360
That will take some time.
To get past, Yeah, the contempt

1185
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,400
is really, really strong and
just oozes contempt for her and

1186
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,640
everyone else, but particularly
her.

1187
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,080
Yeah.
So between Todd and her mother,

1188
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,320
I mean this poor woman.
She's got a lot to contend with.

1189
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,760
Yeah.
I mean, I think I'd have all the

1190
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,040
husbands because I mean most of
them are quite absent, like

1191
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,960
quite literally like.
I feel like we saw less of them

1192
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,680
like this season.
We used to see more of them

1193
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,960
maybe.
Yeah, but even, you know, like

1194
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,640
like where is Mary's husband is?
Like, oh, he's no longer agreed

1195
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,440
to be on the show.
That's what it is.

1196
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,480
That's why we never see him.
We'll never see him again,

1197
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,240
probably.
I think Auntie's, Auntie K's

1198
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,320
husband maybe.
I mean, he seems, I can't even

1199
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,840
remember his name.
Sean.

1200
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,800
That's right.
He, I mean, he seems like the

1201
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,080
least dickish.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

1202
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,080
He just seems like a a guy who's
a good husband and father and

1203
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,400
looks after his family and you
know.

1204
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,440
I agree because.
John's way too passive, but I do

1205
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,760
feel like give us a signal if
you're in danger kind of a.

1206
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Blink twice if you need help.
John Barlow.

1207
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,520
Yeah, it's kind of like those
vibes.

1208
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Should we mention what our
nickname for John Barlow?

1209
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,600
At our watch parties, we call
him Dead Eyes.

1210
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,960
Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Fair, I feel sorry for.

1211
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,920
Him I do too on some level
because you know, like abuse

1212
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,000
doesn't always happen one way
and I I would imagine she is

1213
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,080
very much dictates.
Yeah, I think she's definitely

1214
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,840
driving the bus.
Like, I don't know if that is

1215
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,640
abusive.
Like, that's not totally the

1216
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,120
vibe I get.
I just mean, she's kind of a

1217
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,960
handful.
Yeah.

1218
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,920
Like it's a lot to deal with.
So she's and she's a lot.

1219
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,160
I think she has a listening
problem.

1220
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,480
I think she has trouble
listening.

1221
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800
Right.
And empathizing, yes, with

1222
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,440
people.
So yeah, I feel kind of bad for

1223
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,680
him.
But again, you know, we should

1224
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,840
probably just claim that you
can't actually get a sense of

1225
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,360
someone's marriage from a
reality TV show other than Todd

1226
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,160
and Bronwyn, which I feel pretty
confident seeing, yeah.

1227
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,480
Well, cuz you saw like some of
the actions, yeah, were that

1228
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
were just really gross.
And you're like, I can't

1229
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,360
interpret this like any other
way.

1230
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,120
So, and again, like you said,
that was on camera and he knew

1231
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,320
he was on camera.
So, yeah, yeah.

1232
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,560
I I really got put off Justin
and Seth.

1233
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
I used to think Seth was kind of
cute.

1234
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,000
But, well, Seth is cute, but
he's sleazy.

1235
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,720
He is like there's a.
Fair thing about him.

1236
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,160
Like like liking and commenting
on Whitney's boobs all the time.

1237
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,640
That was gross.
That's gross.

1238
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,520
And when they had like, wasn't
it the two of them that almost

1239
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,240
had the argument in the other
season?

1240
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,760
Yeah.
And just like that, like, Oh

1241
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,760
yeah, like that, that like, dude
energy.

1242
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Yeah, it it's, it's gross.
Yes, gross.

1243
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,800
Seth is is a little attractive
before he opens his mouth and

1244
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,200
then he's just gross.
And then he just kind of like

1245
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,440
sleazy vibes.
Who's your favorite husband?

1246
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,240
Well, yeah, I think Sean is
great.

1247
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,640
And I've, I've met him a couple
times.

1248
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,480
He seems to be very nice, I
would say.

1249
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,080
Well, my favorite husband was
Coach Shaw before Jen left.

1250
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,520
I really liked him.
He seemed like a good dude.

1251
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Yeah, just a sweetheart.
Yeah.

1252
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,240
Like grounded, Yes.
Respectful.

1253
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Just supportive.
Kind of been lovely.

1254
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:44,920
Yeah.
Yeah.

1255
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,040
I think that's fair.
Yeah, he was.

1256
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,640
Is a good one, Yeah.
Do you think they'll bring her

1257
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:54,400
back?
I read that Andy Cohen had

1258
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,840
agreed not to bring her back
ever so.

1259
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,920
I feel like fortunately I know
you're like damn it.

1260
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,080
I feel like there will be an
appearance or something though

1261
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,240
that would be.
Party.

1262
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,920
Or maybe she could be a friend
of.

1263
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,840
Yes, something like that.
Yeah, A.

1264
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,200
Little feature.
Yeah, a little feature.

1265
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,400
OK, one more question really
quick.

1266
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,120
What was your favorite costume
theme party this season?

1267
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Right, because they love their
costume parties.

1268
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,320
They do.
I was kind of digging on the the

1269
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,760
creative approach Bronwyn took
to her citizenship in Iceland.

1270
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,080
And they were they were all
dressing up.

1271
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,200
Though Lisa Barlow never seems
to get the memo.

1272
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,600
Well, she just won't, right,
Because she's so attached to,

1273
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,320
like, her image.
Yeah, right.

1274
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,640
Like, remember two seasons ago,
maybe when they were at the

1275
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,880
Trixie Motel down in Palm
Springs and she wouldn't do, she

1276
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,760
wouldn't do drag makeup.
Yeah, Yeah.

1277
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,480
You're like, come on.
That was not party pooper.

1278
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,240
Yeah, that that was not cool.
Well, she threw a whole tantrum

1279
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,200
over it too, yeah.
Well, and the idea of bringing

1280
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:05,000
like staff, I mean, maybe I'm
just so on the ice skirts of any

1281
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,040
cat, like I own three pieces of
makeup.

1282
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:12,720
I just, I don't understand the
work, the effort.

1283
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,960
And even when they went to
Greece, like she was on the

1284
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,160
outside because it was, you
know, I have to look and like,

1285
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,040
how much better could you
actually look?

1286
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,000
I don't, I don't know.
I don't know, it's kind of an

1287
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,400
exhausting way to live, I think.
Like, so exhaustive.

1288
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Yeah.
I I don't know.

1289
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,760
I wouldn't fancy it.
What?

1290
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,160
What was your favorite costume?
Oh.

1291
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,800
Definitely the Tea Party, the
Founding Fathers costumes, yeah,

1292
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,840
those were great.
That, yeah, that, that was it.

1293
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,880
The, the citizenship
announcement thing, right?

1294
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:41,880
Yeah.
Amazing.

1295
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,720
Yes, that was very cool.
I think Heather can really rock

1296
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,280
a Founding Fathers wig, by the
way.

1297
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,400
I thought she looked good in it.
Yeah.

1298
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,960
She, it was like her vibe.
Yeah, she definitely suited it.

1299
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:57,520
I I definitely liked it.
OK, well will we wrap up and

1300
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,120
rank them?
Is that like middle school

1301
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,280
esque?
We, I think we already talked

1302
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,120
about all of them.
Yeah, kind of a little bit.

1303
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,720
So maybe we don't do the power
rankings.

1304
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,000
Yeah, maybe.
Well, we'll have to see because

1305
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,920
the season is over now.
Yeah, maybe if we're still

1306
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,840
podcasting when Season 7 starts.
Yeah, maybe we do recaps week by

1307
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,720
week.
That just like a little feature.

1308
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,360
Yeah, I think that would be
helpful.

1309
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,400
I've not seen the tell all yet,
have you?

1310
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,040
The reunion?
No.

1311
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,560
Yeah.
Or yes, the reunion part.

1312
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,760
Yeah, not yet.
Those are my least.

1313
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Favorite items?
Definitely I'd.

1314
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,600
Rather see the action cuz you
just know it's gonna be fighting

1315
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,240
and.
Sure.

1316
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,040
It's just yeah, yeah, kind of
annoying.

1317
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,280
I'll probably watch them though,
yeah.

1318
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Yeah, I mean, why would you not?
All right.

1319
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,200
Well, I think we should wrap up.
I think we're out of time.

1320
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,480
But before we go, it is worth
mentioning that we have a

1321
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,720
housewife related event coming
up in a couple months.

1322
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,600
So, Claire, can you fill us in
on all the?

1323
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,920
Deets my God, I am so excited
for this event.

1324
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,920
Me too.
And honestly, it's like our

1325
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:06,400
ideal event because it's a blend
of academia and trash, Yes.

1326
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,240
So it's like it's literally
designed for us.

1327
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,680
So it is.
The event is It's the first

1328
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,520
symposium on The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City at the

1329
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,800
University of Utah.
It's so amazing, so it's legit.

1330
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,800
I'm so excited.
I am so, so excited.

1331
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,840
So it's on April 10th, I believe
it's open to the public.

1332
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,520
So like I think ticketed or
something.

1333
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,320
I'm not sure they've formally
announced the IT to the public

1334
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,640
yet.
We just saw the call for

1335
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:40,000
proposals and we did submit a
proposal that you wrote.

1336
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,000
I barely helped.
Oh no.

1337
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,600
You did good edits.
It, it, it was a, it was a joint

1338
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,800
thing, yeah.
Yeah, I'm excited.

1339
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,840
It's been accepted.
We are going to be presenting.

1340
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,960
We don't know what time on April
10th, yeah, but mark your

1341
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,840
calendars if you want to come.
And I think afterwards they're

1342
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,280
doing like a walking tour and
bar trivia.

1343
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,200
I am so excited for that.
That part is going to be great.

1344
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,080
I mean, our paper is going to be
amazing.

1345
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,920
We're we're talking about from
Saints dissenters, tales of

1346
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,040
dating a marriage from within
the hive and what it means to be

1347
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,520
single in Utah.
All of like the fun stuff that

1348
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,720
we talk about here on our
podcast.

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I'm right up our alley.
It's perfect.

1350
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We're going to have Salty Hoes
merch too.

1351
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Yes, yes, we are.
Yes, I love it.

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So April.
It's not that far away.

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Mark your calendars.
April 10th will remind you.

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Again, before that happens, and
in the meantime, I don't know,

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let us know what you think.
Drop us a comment, shoot us Adm

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01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,280
on Instagram or Tiktok if
there's anything you want to

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hear about or if you have any
comments about our show today.

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Thanks for joining us today.
We will see you next week.

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See you later.
Bye bye.