Two Ds for St. Paddy's, Please!

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Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to our podcast.

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This is Mel.
And I am.

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Claire and together we are.
The salty.

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Oh, I miss my cue.
Oh my God.

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Should have said the salty ho.
This is the salty.

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Ho sorry I'm not holding up my
end of the podcast.

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Oh girl, you hold up a lot of
stuff.

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You are good.
I was so busy staring at your

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gorgeous face I just lost.
I just forgot my line.

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That's so lovely.
I didn't feel gorgeous.

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I feel greasy today but.
Well, you look gorgeous.

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Thank you, I did char though but
the hair needs washed.

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Did you use SOAP?
I do.

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I do.
You know, I have to say that I

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feel like I scrubbed my body
harder than ever since we did

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that episode because I'm just
like, Oh my God, am I cleaning

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well enough?
So yeah, but the hair is on a

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schedule because it takes a lot
of work and I have to sync it

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with Inferno Pilates, of course.
Yes, yeah, you don't want to

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wash it right before.
No, that would be the waste.

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A waste of a wash.
It would be a waste of a wash,

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although a wash is never wasted.
Men out.

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There so OK yes, for men please
wash every day with soap.

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Multiple times.
But long hair, those of us with

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the nice long hair, like washing
it every day, isn't actually

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good for it.
It's.

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Not good for it at all.
So we have to plan.

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Yeah, we do.
OK.

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Yes.
Well, our topic today, friends,

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is related to today's holiday.
Yay.

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Happy.
Saint Patty's everybody.

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Happy Saint Patty's Day, we're
so glad to have you here.

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Well, I am so happy to be here
in a land that actually probably

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does celebrate it more than in
Ireland, so that's nice.

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Yeah, that is kind of hilarious,
isn't it?

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Yeah.
So we're going to be talking a

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little bit about Saint Patty's
Day, the holiday of Claire's

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people.
My people?

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Yes.
Yes.

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And we'll dive a little bit more
into Claire.

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That is delightful for you all.
Well, I will be.

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I mean, I feel like we got a lot
of interest in your ex Mormon

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story.
A lot of people can't really

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conceive of the way that you
grew up in northern in the north

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of Ireland.
Yes, Excuse me, I almost

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misspoke, but I did not.
No, I am so impressed.

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We we're going to adopt you and
I thought was beautiful.

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Oh, you're so sweet.
I get to be an honorary Irish

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person.
Yes you do.

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We're very particular.
But that that will win you major

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points.
I love that for me.

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That I love that for you too.
You know, people think I'm Irish

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quite frequently.
I can see how they would do

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that.
Yeah, I've got some reddish in

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my hair.
I have the freckles, the fair

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coloring, the blue eyes.
Yes, so I do.

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When people guess at my
ancestry, usually Irish is what

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they come up with.
That's so interesting because

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you are in fact Scandinavian,
right?

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Yeah, I mean wise, you know, I'm
like most white Americans.

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I am a mix of got to be rid of
everything.

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Yeah, you know, assorted, as
they say in the family tree

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also.
Yeah.

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Well, you, you can come and be a
we honorary Irish person.

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I love that because.
We're particular we we do kick

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people out.
OK, perfect.

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I will take one of their spots.
Yes, you can take Butcher

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Biden's spot.
Oh, Butcher Biden.

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Yeah.
OK.

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We're done with him.
We disowned him.

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OK.
We'd like to disown him, too.

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Is that fine?
Oh, yeah.

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OK.
Then you'll be even more

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accepted.
Great.

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Fantastic.
Perfect.

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OK.
All right.

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It's settled.
I am an honorary Irish person

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now.
Yes.

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Even though my coloring is is,
like you said, Scandinavian.

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So this is from my my Swedish
grandmother.

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Yeah.
I feel like anywhere in northern

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Europe.
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Or the north of Europe.
I don't know, Like people

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mistake me for whatever
nationalities place I'm in.

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So that's true in Sweden and
Germany wherever.

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That makes sense.
Your re eyes definitely are

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Irish.
I'm like staring deeply into

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your eyeballs in this episode.
Yeah, we are more in the darker

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Auburn tinge of the ginge over
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Or the really carrot ginge.
Yeah, yeah.

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Or darker, really, but yeah.
Yeah, one of my grandfather's is

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Scottish, or kind of mainly
Scottish, right.

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And his hair was black, like
black.

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Black, Yes.
And like black eyes, almost

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really dark eyes.
So I guess that's kind of

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similar, yeah.
We're.

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A vibe, Yeah.
We're we're, we are.

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And we're going to explore that
vibe.

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Today, baby.
Yeah, I love it.

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Yeah, so happy Saint Patty's
Day, everyone.

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Happy Saint Patty's Day.
Well, before we jump into the

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beautiful cavern that is My
Brain by Irish Things said

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facetiously.
Tell us about your week.

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What's going on with you?
Well, first of all, your brain

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is beautiful so.
Well, thank you.

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Yeah, not many appreciate it so.
Well, I do.

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I feel like I'm getting like a
front row seat and they're

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working since we do this
podcast, and I'm delighted.

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I think our listeners are too,
from everything I've heard.

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Well, that's lovely.
Then my week.

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My week was great, actually.
So I got to get out of town,

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which is always nice.
Not that we don't love Utah, but

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sometimes it's good to go other
places.

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Absolutely.
Tell us where.

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So I was in Palm Springs.
Nice.

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Yes.
And then in San Diego.

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Oh my gosh, Two of my favorite
places in California, I have to

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say.
Oh yeah, really nice.

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Palm Springs is the vibe.
Always loved being there and San

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Diego is very close to where I
grew up, so it's kind of like

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coming home.
You got some wee beach, yeah?

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That's right, I love the coldest
beach time.

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Yes.
But it's the beach all.

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This.
Yeah, well, it's not the

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coldest, but it is not warm.
France.

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If you have not been to the
Southern California beaches, it

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ain't Florida.
It's not like that.

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Sort of like low key bass
temperature water.

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Yeah, no, it's more like your
legs turn numb immediately upon

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entering the ocean and don't
recover feeling until you get

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out.
Yeah, Yeah.

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So that was my week.
Let's see coming up this week.

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I'm kind of excited.
I'm hoping I'm gonna meet

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someone that I've been texting
with but have not actually met

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in person so.
Why not?

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What's going on?
So this person, we're gonna call

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him the German because he's a
German.

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Well, that makes a lot of sense,
right, Mr. German?

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The German, Yes.
I'll just say the German.

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I kind of like that.
It sounds like a title.

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Almost does.
Yeah, I'm very like, robust and

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sexy.
I mean, I hope so.

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The German, the German, the
German.

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I guess I don't know yet though,
because I haven't met him.

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And the reason I haven't is
because we did match on an app

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like a month ago or more.
I know.

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Which is whoa, crazy, right?
Yeah, but we matched and he

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immediately left to go to
Europe.

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Oh, my God.
And has been there ever since.

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Wow.
And so we've been conversing.

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And that's really weird.
I don't think I've ever talked

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to someone so long without
meeting them.

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Yeah.
Without like, being able to meet

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them in real life and see if the
Wii spark is there.

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Right, because it's really
important, right?

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I don't like to draw things out.
No.

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You know, enough conversation to
know that the person isn't like,

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a complete creep or yes, you
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Yeah, right.
We want to at least give them a

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little chance to see how many
red flags they've dropped.

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Yes, before setting up a date.
But usually I try to keep that

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to a few days.
Really.

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Yeah, because.
You want to meet up pretty soon?

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Yeah, you see, like if there's a
connection.

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Right.
Yeah, any kind of attraction.

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I mean, attraction in chemistry
is really tricky and you can't

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get it from texting I don't
think.

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Yeah, and even just like
people's voice and yeah, their

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smells, as we know, yes.
That's right, smell your mate

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before you date, right?
Well, you can't do that, no.

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Anyway, but the texting has been
great.

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Seems like a good guy so we will
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I'll keep you posted.
Oh my God, that German.

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I'm so excited.
I love like a we love interest,

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a we a we nugget of promise.
A nugget of promise?

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Yes.
Oh my God.

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I love it.
That sounds like something from

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a fantasy series.
Yeah.

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The nugget of promise.
Yes, The secret nugget of

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promise.
I'm on a quest to find the

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nugget of promise.
Help Mel retrieve her nugget.

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It could be a video game and
everything.

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Like I see a whole just suite of
products here.

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My goodness.
We're branching out.

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Should we add it to our merch
selection?

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The nugget of promise.
Find your nugget of promise.

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Maybe it's a new dating app.
The nugget of promise.

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Nop for sure.
Find your NOP, See, it's just

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flowing.
We're naturals myself.

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Why are why are we in academia?
We could have been living a

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different life.
Yeah, yeah.

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That's the question I asked
myself frequently that this is

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true, as I'm sure you do too
often ponder pondering this

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particularly right now.
But we hope you get your nugget

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mill.
Well, thank you.

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OK, enough of about my non
existent and largely imaginary

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love life.
Let's turn back to you.

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So bringing it back full circle,
Happy Saint Patty's Day.

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Happy Saint Patty's Day to you
too.

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And I do have a question right
off the bat.

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So we say Happy Saint Patty's
Day.

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Is that Patty with 2D's like
Paddy, or Patty with two T's

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like Patty like a hamburger
Patty?

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I love that we're having this
conversation because I don't

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know why this this irks me so
much but it does.

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When I see the two T's, it is
not T's, it is D's.

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OK, so it irks you because it's
wrong.

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It it irks me because it's wrong
I guess.

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OK, so 2D's is correct.
Double D baby.

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Double D We like the double D's.
I would take 2D's right now.

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Single D myself.
Oh that D Oh yes, oh God, we

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were in the wrong D's, but both
are good.

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Yes, we like all the D's.
We like all the D's.

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Sorry, back to the Patriots.
OK, maybe not all of them.

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Anyway, I apologize.
Do I need to now offer a prayer

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to Saint Patrick or something?
I'm sorry.

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We're sorry.
I have sinned.

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Yes.
Bless you, Charlie.

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OK, so we've established 2 D's.
Why is it 2D's instead of two

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T's?
Because it's Saint Patrick,

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right?
Yeah.

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So funnily enough, I actually
didn't know the answer to this

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question previously.
I was like, it just is so.

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Well, that's a good enough
answer, but if you know more,

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tell us more.
Not really as an educator, but

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you know, we should provide
reasons.

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But it is actually, as with all
things you will find out in

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Ireland, deeply rooted in
settler colonization.

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Yes.
So the the Irish or the Gaelic

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or Guelga will do all the
different levels here of

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Anglicization.
Guelga, Guelga.

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That's like the proper the
proper word for the Irish

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language.
Oh, I love it.

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A lot of people call it Gaelic
too.

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I I sound like I'm somewhat of
an expert, which I have to say

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I'm not.
I'm trying to learn it more than

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I ever have because, again,
colonization.

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But back to the double D So
Podrick is the Irish

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pronunciation of Patrick and it
has AD.

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It's like Padraig.
Oh, I've seen that so.

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Patty.
Yeah.

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OK.
So, Patty, all right, So,

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friends, double D, you've been
saying it wrong.

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That's OK, right?
Give you no shade.

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You are forgiven.
Just start doing it correctly

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from now on, right?
Yes, when you know better, you

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do better.
Exactly.

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All right.
So tell us why.

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Saint Patrick.
Saint Patty.

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Patty is important, you know,
It's just such an interesting

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thing because I, I can't decide
if it's like a, like a, a weird

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trick of the English because
he's actually English.

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Right.
Didn't he come to Ireland to

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convert everyone to Catholicism
or am I misremembering that?

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That is the one of the times he
came to Ireland.

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So he was actually kidnapped.
Oh, by the Irish and brought to

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Ireland when he was like 16.
I see.

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Yeah.
So he he was kidnapped and like,

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you know, piracy or King Niall,
I think it was kind of a thing

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and taken to Ireland and then he
escaped and went back to

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England.
And then when he was older, he

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came back then to convert the
heathens.

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So like I can't decide if it's a
good thing or a bad thing

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because, you know, he maybe
thought we were savages and and

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came back to take our witchery
away, which I don't appreciate

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so.
I know I don't like that either.

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Yeah, so here we are with this
whole maybe This is why they

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celebrate it more in America
than in Ireland.

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I don't know, should we
decolonize Saint Patrick?

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'S Day, Decolonize, Saint
Patrick's Day.

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But you know, honestly, this is
not something that actually hit

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me until I was away from
Ireland.

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So, you know, and there it's
interesting because being from

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the North, if your kids went to
a public school, they did not

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get the day off.
Oh, but if you go to Catholic

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school, you did.
Wow.

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So my kids, when we still lived
in Ireland, they went to a what

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we would call a public or a
state elementary school, we call

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a primary school.
And so as, as a political

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statement, I kept them off
school.

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I like that.
I did.

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And we went in a picnic.
So can I unpack that just a

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little bit?
Because that is really

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interesting to me.
OK, so the Catholics had Saint

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Patty's off, yes.
As a holiday.

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Yep.
And the Protestants, basically

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the Protestant school.
Loosely speaking, did not the

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public schools?
Typically the Protestants went,

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which once again is for colonial
reasons.

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Yes.
So that's almost like a double

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reverse Uno colonial.
Right thing.

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I don't even know where we are
right now at any of this.

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Like that's anti Catholic, but
Saint Patty was Catholic and he

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came over to colonize and get
rid of the traditional Irish

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religion.
Yes.

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And then it flipped back after
Church of England, etcetera, it

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said.
Wow.

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I mean, there's just levels,
yeah, levels upon levels of

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unpacking there.
So, yeah, that's fascinating.

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It's it's quite, it's quite a
day.

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You just thought you were going
to get a get your green on and

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pinch people and drink beer.
But yeah, it's actually very

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deep.
Wow.

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Like most things.
Well, what else do we know about

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Saint Patty?
Well, here's another interesting

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thing that gives me the Eck in
America.

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Sorry lads, this four lever, 4
lever, 4 lever 4 leaf Clover.

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Sorry, the racing brain has
kicked in the four leaf Clover.

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Just stop.
Oh.

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So that's not a thing in
Ireland?

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No, no.
No, no, I mean, you can look for

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four leaf clovers and they're
considered lucky, but what you

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what you're really trying to
get?

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And shout out to Trader Joe's
because every year they have the

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Shamrock plant.
Oh, you're a Shamrock?

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And it's related to Saint
Patrick in that that's how he

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like taught the Trinity.
So it's Father, Son and Holy

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Spirit.
Oh, right, the three in one.

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So you're.
Adding in a forced person, who

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is this fourth person?
Well, we're in Utah, so isn't it

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Heavenly Mother?
Oh yeah, no, it's Joseph Smith.

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Oh Bigam Young, I liked Heavenly
Mother butter.

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Yeah, but sure, the Mormons
don't let you talk about her,

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right?
That's true.

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You're not supposed to talk
about Heavenly Mother.

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Their benevolent sexism.
They're trying to pretend that

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she's so special.
But yeah, that's another

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episode.
Well, I think, I mean sorry not

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to derail us too much, but isn't
we love derailment?

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Isn't it more because Mormon
theology still accepts polygamy?

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So there were probably multiple
heavenly mothers.

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Heavenly Mothers.
Yeah.

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I mean, yeah, they're they're
hiding.

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Hiding their shame.
Yeah.

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So I guess that would be a lot
of leaves on that Clover.

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It would be a.
Bush, Kevin.

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Kevin I Heavenly Mother Bush.
Yeah, Wow.

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Wow, wow, you took it there.
I just, I love us, Melissa.

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I love us, too.
She doesn't have access to

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waxing.
Yeah, All right, there's.

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So many topics in.
One episode, much like the

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Shamrock.
Yes, we had three or four in one

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right there.
Yes.

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All right, back to Saint Patty's
Day.

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OK, so 4 leaf Clover not really
related to Saint Patty's Day,

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Not a thing.
Get your shamrocks.

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OK, I like it.
What about the other American

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tradition?
Should we be eating corned beef

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and cabbage?
Is that an Irish thing?

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You know I wholeheartedly reject
it.

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OK.
Although I will say so again,

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we're going into NS divides
here.

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There is a dish called Cocannon
Cocannon and it's like potatoes

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with cabbage mixed in.
So I really didn't eat that, but

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it could be like a Protestant
potato, Catholic potato kind of

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a thing.
I know that sounds ridiculous,

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but in the North there are
actually like eating things like

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we love our bakeries and, and we
call you call hamburger buns

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buns, but we call those baps
baps baps.

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Oh, I love that.
But also we call your boobs your

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baps.
So don't confuse the two.

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Well, I also like to put a piece
of meat between them, so Oh my

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God, I'm sorry.
Maybe that's why that's oh God.

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That would be more of a sausage
than a Patty with two T's, not

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2D's.
Moving on.

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So what?
At the bakery.

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We.
We buy a cream bun, which I fear

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will not get us away from our
divergent competition, but

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Catholic cream buns are much
more impressive than Protestant

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cream buns.
Oh my God, I can't, Claire.

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So anyway, there are some food
differences.

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That's basically what I'm
saying.

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So and I have, I have cooked for
you and some patties before you

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have.
And So what we traditionally

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have is Irish Stew.
Yes.

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But as you would say, Stew.
I can't, I can't Stew.

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I just can't see like the
attitude with my shoulders when

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I say that I love it.
Stew.

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OK, Irish Stew.
Irish Stew.

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And what's in there?
So well, there's posh Irish Stew

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and there's like poor Irish
Stew.

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So I always make the posh one,
which is like chunks of beef,

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right?
So like Stew and steak?

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Yeah, delicious.
Beef for Stew, as they call it

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here, and potatoes, carrots,
onions and a blend of secret

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wonderful spices.
Oh Yum.

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And you just put it all in and
let it shooky, as we say.

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Which just means, I mean, you go
all day.

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Can you say that word again?
Shooky, shooky, shooky.

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I love it.
Yeah, Shooky.

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And in all honesty, maybe some
Irish people could leave us

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comments.
I don't know if that's a word

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that my mother made-up or is a
real word.

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Oh OK, Irish friends, please
weigh in.

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I still, as a 51 year old woman,
don't know that.

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So so yeah.
But you just let it sticky

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together.
So cook a long time.

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Love it.
Yeah, like in your wee crock pot

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or slow cooker as we would call
it.

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Ireland.
So that's one thing.

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Also champ.
And sausages.

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So you have sausage, sausage.
Back to the sausage between

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Mel's baths.
You can see that the.

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Adroit has reached all time
highs here.

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Yeah, we're desperate friends.
Please send help.

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Yes, send help intervention,
preferably in the form of Double

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D.
OK anyway, so the champ Champ is

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similar to Cole Cannon in that
it is potatoes surprise with

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scallions Yum in it and tons of
butter.

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Yum Yum Yum Yum.
It's.

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It's hard to be vegan on some
Patty's Day, so that's

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traditionally why I have made my
family on Patty's Day.

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I love it.
So delicious.

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Not corned beef.
The only memory I have of corned

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beef is that during the
Falklands War.

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Yeah.
And the.

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The mothers were asked to
boycott corned beef.

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Why?
The children of Ireland rejoiced

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because we used to get it in our
sandwiches for school lunch with

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like.
Oh, that's so good.

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Visceral response because I had
that Jelly stuff on it.

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Yeah, bad, bad.
Well, I guess apparently a lot

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of.
Corned beef was sourced in

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Argentina.
Oh that makes sense.

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Like they're a big beef
producing region.

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And so the the the Mammies, as
we would call them, were asked

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to boycott corned beef, and the
children rejoiced.

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Wow.
Yeah, OK, Wow.

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That's interesting.
That was.

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Really long answers.
No, I love it.

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Is there any other traditional
foods we should know about?

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Well, with your leftover
potatoes, you can make this one

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always gets people because they
misunderstand my accent.

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Titty bread.
Titty bread.

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Titty bread.
Tatty bread.

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OK.
Tea, tea, tea, tea.

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Taters.
Like taters.

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00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,120
Tea toe.
Yeah.

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Taters, tea, tea, tea, breads.
OK, Not to be confused with

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titty bread.
This is amazing.

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Yeah, So.
And it's it's good.

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You just put potato.
It's like potatoes, flour and

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butter, and then you just mix it
all together and you cook it on

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like a skillet or in a pan.
You don't bake it.

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It's like flat.
I love that.

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I love, I love.
Titty bread.

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00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:33,560
I love titty bread too.
Oh man, so good.

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00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,920
OK, how about what about green
beer?

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Yeah, we don't do that.
That doesn't surprise me, but I

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had to ask because, you know, I
don't know if that's an all

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American thing or really like a
Chicago thing or if that's New

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York.
I don't really know.

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Friends, I grew up in the West.
Yeah.

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So if there's any Irish
Americans here that have strong

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feelings about green beer,
please weigh in.

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Let us know.
Tell.

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Us.
I did spend Saint Patrick's Day

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in New York once and it was it
was low key mid.

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Oh, really?
Because it was.

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There, there was a wee bit of
it.

461
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520
I actually did go and see Glenn
Hansard though, who's an amazing

462
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,320
Irish.
Musician.

463
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,440
Yes, and you saw him at Red
Butte, right?

464
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000
No, I think I was out of town.
I wanted to, but yeah.

465
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,920
Yeah, so he is one of my
thieves.

466
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,480
And he was playing in Brooklyn
on Saint Patty's Day, so.

467
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,600
Like I had to go.
Yes, clearly.

468
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,920
But he did express that he liked
the New York version of Saint

469
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,680
Patty's Day because it was kind
of low key.

470
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,640
OK.
I mean, I definitely find fun in

471
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,360
the bars after I'm sure.
I think Chicago wins it.

472
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,120
Yeah, I think it's a thing
there.

473
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,120
Don't they dye the river green?
Everything.

474
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,440
Yeah, and my BB child is in.
Chicago.

475
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,840
Oh, that's right.
And loves, loves, loves, loves

476
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760
her Wee Patty.
Stay in Chago, as we call it.

477
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,680
Oh, maybe we need to get her on
the podcast at some point.

478
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720
Give us a little update to.
Give us to give us a full review

479
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560
of what's going on.
But of course she wouldn't be

480
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,960
having green beer.
Sure you wouldn't, dear child.

481
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:09,680
If you're listening, she's
approximately what, like 4 1/2

482
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,880
weeks from her 20?
1st birthday, So a green, a

483
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,000
green mocktail I'm sure is
what's happening.

484
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,960
And an early, early bedtime.
Yes, I'm convinced about it,

485
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Yeah.
It's all good.

486
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,880
She's legal in Ireland.
Yeah, you can take for me a team

487
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,680
in Ireland.
It's fine.

488
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,000
Yeah, Europe just doesn't seem
to care in general, as I have

489
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,280
realized every time I take my
wee child over there.

490
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,080
Yeah, well, cuz, yeah.
My kids, they always bring this

491
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720
up.
We were in Paris once when they

492
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040
were right.
Gosh, I don't know, Like we

493
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,640
teens, I don't think the
youngest was even into the teen

494
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,880
years and ordered pizza and a
bottle of wine and they just

495
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,680
bought a glass for everybody.
Yeah.

496
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,000
And just poured them a weed
drop.

497
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,840
And they like looked at me like,
can we and.

498
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,160
I was like, yeah, go ahead.
It's it was like actually a good

499
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,360
lesson, contrary to Utah policy
that you teach them that you

500
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,560
don't have to get like shit
faced every time.

501
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,320
Yeah.
It was like an accompaniment to

502
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,760
their culinary experience.
Exactly.

503
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,160
Just a glass of wine with
dinner.

504
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,120
It's not a big deal, friends.
Yep, not at.

505
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320
All, Yeah, All right.
Well, what else should we know

506
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,480
about Saint Patrick or Saint
Patrick's Day and.

507
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,280
Irish people don't wear green.
We can pinch you if you're not.

508
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,160
And actually, it was so funny
when we moved here, my kids were

509
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,120
96 and 2.
And so the the two uppers were

510
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,360
at elementary school, and they
were like, we have to do all

511
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,280
this stuff.
And I was like, oh, my God,

512
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200
like, what?
I can't feel as an American

513
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,680
mother.
And yeah, like, apparently I had

514
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,560
to, like, turn all the furniture
upside down.

515
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040
My lace slept at night.
I had to put, like, string

516
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,640
across the driveway because it
was a leprechaun trick.

517
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,880
And they all had to be decked
out for school.

518
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,560
I was freaking.
Exhausted.

519
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,760
OK, I wanted to ask you about
that too, because I feel like

520
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,520
the leprechaun thing is a recent
phenomenon.

521
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520
And I feel like that is, I mean,
clearly it seems like an

522
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,720
American invention, but when I
was a kid, like, we, we wore

523
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,360
green and that was the extent of
it in school.

524
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,520
And we probably like colored in
clovers or something like that.

525
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,400
Yeah.
Just some like little worksheet

526
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,120
or coloring worksheet.
I don't know.

527
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
But the leprechauns weren't a
thing.

528
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Really.
Yeah, not at all.

529
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:17,120
But then when my son started
daycare, it's suddenly this was

530
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,440
a thing.
Like when they slept, the

531
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,160
leprechauns were like playing
tricks.

532
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,960
Like he came home with like
little like footprints on his

533
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,200
face because they had stamped
all the children when they were

534
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,120
asleep at night or at nap time
with like a footprint stamp that

535
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,680
was supposed to be the
leprechauns.

536
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960
And like, I had no idea.
I picked him up and I was like,

537
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:38,720
what the fuck is this?
What is?

538
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,360
That on your face.
Wow.

539
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,640
So I think that's that's a
newer, is it American thing?

540
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,280
Because you you had your school
in in California.

541
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Yeah, that's true.
Maybe.

542
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,960
OK, I don't really know.
People outside of Utah, do you

543
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,440
stamp your children's visas on
some magic?

544
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Right.
Do you set up leprechaun traps?

545
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640
Do you turn the furniture upside
down?

546
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,640
Like that's none of that
happened in my childhood.

547
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,440
So I'm curious if it's a
regional difference or just a

548
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520
more recent phenomenon.
Definitely didn't do that in

549
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,040
Ireland because I mean, while we
acknowledge the existence of the

550
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,320
leprechaun, we're, we're more
into like fairies and and

551
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
witches and yeah, things like
that.

552
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,360
So like, like honestly, the the
banshee.

553
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,040
Have you heard of the banshee?
Of course, yeah.

554
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,400
My older sisters tortured me
with the banshee.

555
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,800
They basically had me believing
that if I heard any kind of

556
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,800
sound that it was like the
banshee calling me unto death.

557
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,200
Wow.
Yeah.

558
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,680
So I actually was aware of the
Banshee from an old movie.

559
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,400
Yeah.
With Sean Connery called Darby

560
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,400
O'gill and the Little People.
Have you ever seen that one?

561
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,200
I didn't realize I had the
banshee in it.

562
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,400
Yeah, at the end, the Banshee.
Was she scary?

563
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,600
Very.
Oh, that's.

564
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,080
Good.
At least they got that right.

565
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Yeah.
And then they had the

566
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,760
leprechauns.
Those were the little people, of

567
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,880
course.
And then they had the the

568
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,080
coachman death that came to take
somebody away.

569
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Yeah, I don't know about the
coach man in Ireland.

570
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080
And honestly, I may have
miscategorized the banshee

571
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,080
because we like our fairy.
Like what would you call them?

572
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,120
Witchy people or they're not
usually scary like they're

573
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,680
they're there to help.
Interesting.

574
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,440
So, so yeah.
But my sister did have me very

575
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,560
frightened of the banshee.
Wow.

576
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Yeah.
I love it.

577
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,120
I want to go read more about
Irish mythology now.

578
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:37,320
You know, Irish mythology is
honestly fucking amazing.

579
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Yeah.
And it's very women centric.

580
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840
I love that.
I mean, we have our big giants

581
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,400
and men and things too, but like
Maca, you have to read the story

582
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320
of Maca it.
Oh my God, it's a tear to my eye

583
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,120
every time.
Oh wow OK I'm adding that to my

584
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:55,800
reading list right now.
It's very cool.

585
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,280
We will return and report
friends.

586
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,920
I feel like we need to talk
about this more we do down the

587
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,440
road.
In fact, my oldest daughter had

588
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,280
an imaginary friend as a child
called Maca.

589
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Oh wow.
And so we we talked about this

590
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,160
story and she's a writer and has
written it into many an amazing

591
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,480
story.
So it's it's a great story.

592
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,160
Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah.

593
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,720
Very quiet.
Wow.

594
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,440
I moved so nice.
I.

595
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Need a moment to?
Well, I have another question

596
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080
about Saint Patrick, because I
think the one thing that we

597
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,480
might know here in the United
States, besides converting the

598
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,200
island to Catholicism, is
driving the snakes out.

599
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,520
Oh yes, the sneaks.
Yeah.

600
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Yes.
So is that true?

601
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,400
Yes, Well.
Well, I mean, is it true there's

602
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,920
no snakes in Ireland?
I guess.

603
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,760
Yeah, well, double layer to
that.

604
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840
So yes, it is true.
There are no snakes.

605
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,360
And that was like a big sort of
surprise when my kids moved here

606
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,720
because, you know, they always
played like barefoot in the

607
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880
grass.
I'm not trying to over idealize

608
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
their childhood, but like, you
know, we had this nice big

609
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,040
garden as we call our yard and
like a stream going through it.

610
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,240
I mean, they split their feet
open on it sometimes because

611
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,240
people would dump glass in it,
but that's another story.

612
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,600
But it was, it was lovely, but
pardon me, there were no snakes.

613
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680
And then we move here and we're
living in Leighton by the

614
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760
mountains.
I love your Utah.

615
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520
People, yeah, the people don't
say teas here.

616
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,640
And I mean, we had snakes in our
garden.

617
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Our backyard.
What kind of snake yard?

618
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520
What kind of snakes do you?
Have though we I never knew if

619
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,160
it was Gart the Garter snakes or
gardener, but.

620
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Yeah, yeah.
So a lot of people call them

621
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920
garden snakes, but properly I
think they're Garter snakes.

622
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
So like a Garter that you would
wrap around your leg?

623
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,360
That makes sense.
Like to hold your stockings up?

624
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,920
OK, yeah, I wouldn't do that,
but that makes.

625
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Sense yeah, probably shouldn't.
Although Garter snakes tend to

626
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,040
be really sweet and peaceful.
Yes, they you shouldn't be too

627
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
worried about picking them up.
Did your kids pick them up and

628
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320
play with them eventually?
Eventually after they got over

629
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,760
the shock, the initial and fear.
Of the wildlife that was in this

630
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,160
land, Like, we had birds and
foxes and then we come here and

631
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040
there's like, yeah, Oh my God.
Like see if your children from

632
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,080
the mountain lions and snakes
and tarantulas and bears and

633
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,440
raccoons and the list goeth on,
which are generally not really

634
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,680
dangerous at all, but.
Yeah, garters thinks the worst

635
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,240
thing they might they're not
bitey at all.

636
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440
The worst thing they might do to
you is release some Musk, which

637
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600
smells bad.
And it's kind of like their

638
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920
their chemical defense.
Know that.

639
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Yeah.
So I have a little bit of a

640
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,560
background in herpetology, which
is the study of reptiles and

641
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,080
amphibians, by the way.
And I used to have friends that

642
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,440
worked at the California Academy
of Sciences.

643
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,800
And like any museum, I assume
sometimes you deal with members

644
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,400
of the public that are a little
bit special, shall we say, that

645
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,160
want to, you know, touch things.
Well, touch things are like

646
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,680
share their their obsession with
you.

647
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,280
And they had one character who
didn't work.

648
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920
I think he didn't have to.
We had money for some reason.

649
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,360
But he was obsessed with Garter
snakes.

650
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,960
And he always used to come in
and he always used to smell like

651
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
them because he would kind of
mess with them until they would

652
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000
release.
That must because he liked the

653
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,440
smell.
Just like I I need some Cologne

654
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,640
today.
Let me get squirted on by a

655
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,480
sneak.
It might surprise you to learn

656
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,760
that this man was single.
Wow.

657
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Oh, nobody find that that didn't
like turn you, turn you on.

658
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,680
As a well, I never met him, I
just heard about him, he was a

659
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,280
legend.
It's lore, yes.

660
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Wow, that is.
That's kind of impressive,

661
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,360
honestly.
Yeah.

662
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,600
All right.
Well, let me just ask you this

663
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
to wrap up the Saint Patrick's
portion.

664
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720
How should we be celebrating?
Or is there anything else you

665
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440
want us to know?
How should you be celebrating?

666
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,840
You know, I just feel like
whatever way you want to because

667
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,200
it's but you know, just just
take on board the new things we

668
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
have learned by Ireland.
That's right, Apply them.

669
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Have a we drop a whiskey.
Oh, yes, please make sure it's

670
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,520
not Scotch, though.
Like go, go to your go to your

671
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Irish whiskey.
We drop some bourbon.

672
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:21,480
Just like I'm joking, we Smokey
bourbon from the South No on

673
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Bushmills, which I really do
feel is underrated.

674
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240
I love Bushmills.
I do I I love Bushmills.

675
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,480
But that, that's a north of
Ireland whiskey.

676
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Yeah.
You know, I probably feel like

677
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,000
it would be more categorized as
a Protestant whiskey.

678
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Yeah, but did I ever tell you
about the time in Chicago that I

679
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,960
asked my Uber driver if he liked
it?

680
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,480
No.
Oh, God.

681
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,280
So just, you know, a quick but
relevant TV issue in here from

682
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,960
the story.
So I was leaving my, my baby

683
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040
child back for like her second
year of college and our flight

684
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
was super delayed in Salt Lake
and we ended up getting in at

685
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,280
like 3:00 AM.
It's meant to be like 6:00 PM

686
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,560
got in at 3:00 AM and we had to
be like 25 minutes on an Uber.

687
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,080
And we we were just like past
tiredness at that point.

688
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,600
So we get into the Uber.
He is hilarious.

689
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,240
We're like, Oh my God, I hope he
doesn't speak.

690
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Like, we just want to zone out
in the back of the Uber.

691
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160
He was Mr. Chatty.
They always are when you don't

692
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400
want them to be Mr. Mcchatty.
Yeah.

693
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840
And so we get talking.
He's like, oh, where's your

694
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,480
accent from?
And you know, the, the Irish

695
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,160
talk comes out and, and he's
like, oh, I really love Jameson.

696
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,480
And so my dad drank Bushmills.
But there's like a, a posh 1 and

697
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,360
it's called Black Bush, Black
Bush, the black Bush like the

698
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,800
black label.
I love it.

699
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,840
So we are driving and I said,
oh, Jemison is good, but have

700
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,440
you ever had black Bush?
And my daughter looked at me and

701
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:54,720
said, mom and I was like, what?
Like and the driver driver, the

702
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,560
driver driver is like slapping
the steering wheel, like

703
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,680
laughing.
Oh my God, that's so funny.

704
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480
He's like, girl, I've had
plenty.

705
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,840
And I was like, Oh my God, what
did I just say?

706
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,760
So that's that's my Bushmills
story.

707
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,719
I love it.
That's so funny.

708
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,600
OK, I want to try the black Bush
now.

709
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,159
It's probably not available in
Utah.

710
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120
I have seen Bushmills but I
don't like this here.

711
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,320
Yeah, I'll bring you wee ball
back from Ireland.

712
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,040
OK, beautiful.
I love that.

713
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,639
We'll drink it together.
Yes.

714
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,199
I'm in.
OK, wonderful.

715
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,360
Lovely.
So just celebrate however

716
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,880
however you want.
All right, I like that.

717
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Permission from the Irish.
Thank you.

718
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480
I speak for my nation.
As you should.

719
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,400
Well, let's move on to a little
bit more about you, but I think

720
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,800
this is a natural Segway because
we heard a little bit about how

721
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,920
you grew up in Ireland on your
ex Mormon story and friends.

722
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,440
If you haven't listened to that,
I highly recommend going back

723
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
and checking it out.
It's fantastic.

724
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,440
But let's let's talk more
because I was so interested to

725
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,600
hear about how you grew up.
So what was little wee Claire

726
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,840
like?
What was Claire like as a child?

727
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:17,280
Little wee Claire, yes, it might
not surprise you to know that

728
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,800
she was not like the others.
So yes, I was a little bit of a

729
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,960
a quirky kid.
I think it would be reasonable

730
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,280
to say so it's it's actually
quite funny as as we've alluded

731
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,600
to, but I guess never said I was
very late in life diagnosed ADHD

732
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,800
and very humorously when I told
my mother, she said, well, I

733
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,280
don't see any indicators.
I.

734
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,160
Was like.
OK, let's let's go back to to

735
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,800
little we Claire and talk about
that mother, because, you know,

736
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,400
I was often the child that was
like, be quiet, sit down.

737
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Why are you doing that?
Why are you like this?

738
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Like you're so but you know,
like in my head and when I think

739
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,040
back, I was just I was just very
happy to be there.

740
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560
I just like was curious.
I wanted to know about

741
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:15,960
everything and like, you know,
was more into, like, I love to

742
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,720
be an outside.
Oh yeah.

743
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,840
Which is funny because it was
always Baltic, as we would say.

744
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,560
I mean it was freezing 100% of
the time.

745
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,240
My impression is that it rains
there almost non-stop.

746
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,960
And it's why, like, it's funny,
you know, with my oldest

747
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,920
daughter's back there doing her
graduate stuff and somebody was

748
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,360
one of the international
students was saying, oh, but

749
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,760
it's going to rain that day.
They might have the walk.

750
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,120
And she was like, girl, you put
your hood up like they're like

751
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,200
if they waited till it wasn't
raining, we'd never have the

752
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,600
walk at all.
You would never do anything.

753
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000
I walked my children to and from
school every day when we lived

754
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000
in Ireland and my we wear school
uniforms.

755
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,800
My per wee son had shorts and it
was the cutest ever.

756
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,360
He had little Gray school shorts
and knee socks.

757
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,080
So sweet.
Legs were like blue, but but

758
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,240
yes.
So back to to we child Claire.

759
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,440
She was a bit of a looper, as we
would say back home, I think.

760
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,560
And I yeah.
I don't know what that means.

761
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Like, just like a little.
Hyperactive.

762
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,560
OK, a little looper I like.
It a little are we looper and so

763
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,760
yes I was outside a lot probably
mostly because my mom is like

764
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,400
get the.
Fuck out of the she locked you

765
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,320
out.
We we had a very small house.

766
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,160
So, you know, in her defense, we
played outside a lot because,

767
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:38,880
you know, our house was very
small.

768
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:45,920
And in fact, my mother had my
dad do a DIY project to build a

769
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,240
toilet in the garage so that we
wouldn't even have to come in to

770
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,440
pee.
Yep.

771
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,400
Wait, but I thought you told me
that y'all just peed in the

772
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,480
street over there anyway.
No, that was your experience in

773
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,840
England.
The Irish are more civil.

774
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,720
Well, no, that was a hotel
lobby.

775
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,880
And you said, well, it's normal
to pee in the street over there.

776
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120
I was like, well, the street, I
could give you a pass, but a

777
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,520
hotel lobby is a different
thing.

778
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,360
Yeah, that is.
True.

779
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Actually, we do we, but only if
we're drunk and we've nowhere

780
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,720
else.
To go, OK, well, you're a kid so

781
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,800
you weren't drunk, obviously.
That's that's true.

782
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120
So yes, to correct the the
children of Ireland do not

783
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,840
typically.
Be in the street.

784
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,760
It's only when you get to your
teenage.

785
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,640
And you're drunk.
Yes.

786
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,440
OK, fair.
Yes.

787
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,240
Your teen years, Sorry.
Fair, fair.

788
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Yeah, so I I was a very much a
night door kid.

789
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,720
I loved my bike and it's so
funny to think about how we

790
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,000
reuse our children because like
by the time I was like 7 I would

791
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,000
just set off with like snacks
and go ride my bike for like

792
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
hours and it didn't concern
anybody.

793
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,760
Yeah, that's amazing.
I don't even think I had a

794
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,960
helmet in those.
Days.

795
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,240
I doubt you did.
I don't.

796
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Anyone had helmets in those
days?

797
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880
I do not believe that that I
did.

798
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,000
So I was actually kind of had a
face only a mother could love as

799
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,240
well.
Because no, I'm not being self

800
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,400
deprecating.
Like honestly, have you seen

801
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Nanny McPhee?
No.

802
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,720
Well, it just she has this big.
Tooth that she oh wait, is that

803
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,840
that reality show where she
comes in?

804
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,880
No, no, it's like a, what do you
call her, Emma Thompson?

805
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,760
She's the nanny.
I see.

806
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,000
OK, now I haven't seen it.
Well, for a point of reference,

807
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400
that's kind of how I looked
because of said bike.

808
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,560
I was a very accident prone
child too, and when I was about

809
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,000
four or five years old, before
I'd lost my BB teeth, I fell and

810
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,120
split my lip from my lip to the
bottom of my nose, and it pulled

811
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,200
one of my BB teeth out by the
roots.

812
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,640
But I damaged my gum too, so it
twisted the roots and so it

813
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:47,400
literally grew back.
Not entirely horizontal, but

814
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960
maybe partial.
Like a little snaggle tooth.

815
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,280
It was a wee snaggle tooth and
the rest of.

816
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,120
The teeth were fine, but you
poor thing.

817
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
But it it like I kind of have
big teeth, but it like stuck out

818
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,800
there.
So you know, and I was it was a

819
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,760
wee bit bulky and I was like
this height from I was like 9.

820
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Oh man, I was an awkward.
Child so you towered over all

821
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
your classmates.
I wasn't what you call a cute

822
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,280
kid, but.
Yeah, I bet you were cute.

823
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,320
I'll have to get some pictures
and get some pictures.

824
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,800
We'll.
Put them on the Instagram.

825
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Yeah.
What other great memories do you

826
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,480
have from childhood or notable
memories?

827
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480
I guess they could be great or
not.

828
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I
think hats off to my parents.

829
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,680
They did a pretty good job in
the context in which we grew up

830
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:37,240
of helping us to sort of feel
safe as much as you could do in

831
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:41,080
that context, you know, because
they're, they're definitely

832
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,160
where aspects of growing up and
being a child at that time not

833
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,360
to be like, oh, here's my poor
war-torn.

834
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,360
Story but like, no.
But it was it.

835
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,960
It was scary, yeah.
At times for different reasons.

836
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,440
A lot of that was very dependent
on where you lived, your

837
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,520
family's religion or job or I
mean, there's just so many

838
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
factors.
It could be an entire podcast

839
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,400
series.
But, you know, it, it was funny

840
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520
then to move to America and see
things that we like, thought

841
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:13,120
were normal that that weren't
like, you know, Irish people

842
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,800
always have curtain over your
front door.

843
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,200
And I when I looked at houses to
buy here, I was like, where's

844
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,640
all the curtains over the front
door?

845
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,800
And I think partly that was a a
heat consideration.

846
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,120
And part of it was you did not
want to get shot in your house.

847
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,640
So wow, you covered you covered
the glass.

848
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,840
It's it's going to get dark and
depressing, but yes.

849
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Yeah.
So I mean, it was an entirely

850
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,480
normal childhood, but also
extremely abnormal, you know,

851
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,280
they're.
Yeah.

852
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520
I mean, I think most of our
listeners, other than our lovely

853
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,200
Irish listeners would probably
find it very abnormal.

854
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,200
I mean, I remember pretty
clearly when we did your ex

855
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,680
Mormon episode and you talked
about beings being spit on,

856
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,640
right.
And it sounds like there was,

857
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,200
like you said, an element of of
not necessarily feeling safe all

858
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,280
the time.
Yeah, and I mean like this is

859
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,640
something that I actually get
quite passionate about because

860
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,360
and in like a slightly irritated
way because living in American

861
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Eye, there's almost like AI
don't know if you've noticed a

862
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,640
romanticization of violence.
And no, I hadn't.

863
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,160
No, no, just kidding.
Yes, I had noticed.

864
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,320
Well, and, but like from
everybody across all the

865
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,800
political divides and, and
they're kind of like, well, I

866
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,200
would do this and I would do
that.

867
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,400
And it's like really big guy,
you would, you know, they talk

868
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,040
so casually about, well, if
somebody came to my door, like I

869
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,640
would just go and unlock my gun.
And it's like, really, would you

870
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,760
like to have a conversation
about what it means for masked

871
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
men with guns to come to your
front door?

872
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Like really, would you like like
to talk about that?

873
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,160
Yeah, that's terrifying.
It elevates.

874
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Me somewhat because you're like,
dude, you.

875
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,160
No, you don't.
Not be that Cam.

876
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,800
You don't know what you're
talking about if you haven't

877
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,160
experienced this.
It's not.

878
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,440
Fun, like it's it's really,
really not fun.

879
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,760
So you know, it was just always
the backdrop, if that made sense

880
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,520
or like bomb scares were
frequent and bombs going off for

881
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
frequent and you know all of
that.

882
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,400
But when you grow up and that
all the time, it sadly becomes a

883
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,840
normal.
And you know, you often see

884
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,400
people with PCPTSD that would be
like, oh like light things make

885
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,640
them jump or whatever.
But I to me more interesting in

886
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,200
that is when you don't.
Oh, the silence is more scary.

887
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,120
Well, or that you just are
unfazed when you hear those

888
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,040
things because your nervous
system has just had to get used

889
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600
to them for survival.
So yeah.

890
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,720
Do you feel like you have any
PTSD?

891
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600
I just laughed.
No, I'm sorry if that's if

892
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,720
that's insensitive, it's a
sincere question.

893
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:59,800
I think it's actually a very
genuine conversation to have.

894
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:04,680
There was a great clip actually
a while back on the Colbert

895
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880
show.
And is that what you call that?

896
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,280
The Colbert Report, The Colbert
Report, The Colbert Report, The

897
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,720
Colbert Show?
Yes, that show that's not even

898
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:17,320
on anymore, is it?
No, he has his other show now,

899
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,080
OK.
Gotcha.

900
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,240
Anyway, Liam Neeson was on there
and he started asking him about

901
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,680
it a bit, you know, because he's
a wee bit older than me, but was

902
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,440
a teenager where I would have
been a child and, and sort of

903
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,440
the Troubles.
And, you know, he was like,

904
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,160
yeah, I suppose like we probably
all do have some PTSD and that's

905
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,320
kind of the Irish approach.
Like there's a a new sort of

906
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,120
trend there.
And I to acknowledge that.

907
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,600
Oh my God, like the entire
population lived like that and

908
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
intergenerational trauma, all of
those things.

909
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,680
And a lot of people doing great
work, like thinking about a

910
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,560
trauma informed school system
and, you know, acknowledging

911
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,200
what happened because we never
really acknowledged it, you

912
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,720
know, and even calling it the
troubles, like a wee spot of

913
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,200
trouble.
And you know, so, so it's

914
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,040
interesting.
I think probably a lot of us are

915
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
hyper vigilant.
That makes sense.

916
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,160
And I, I could definitely see
like high, high I would

917
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,880
definitely exhibit.
Some of those tendencies of

918
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,720
that.
Yeah.

919
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,120
Yeah, I wonder too, and I don't
want to speak for you or for

920
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,840
your country or for its history,
but it's not like the Troubles,

921
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,840
the we spot of trouble was the
first time that Ireland had had

922
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,720
some trouble.
I mean, it's been a long history

923
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,080
of settler colonialism and
oppression and and outright

924
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,320
genocide.
Yes, because it's so funny the

925
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,720
way like it's I was going to say
baked, but that felt like too

926
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:58,040
much of A pun on a baked potato.
It's you can say baked.

927
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,240
It's it's baked into the
history, yes, of like, oh, there

928
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,920
was a famine and everybody came
to America, but it was in fact a

929
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,480
genocide.
Like yes, it's not that we

930
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,720
didn't have food.
We did have food but it was

931
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,760
getting shipped off.
It was withheld, yes.

932
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,960
And so access to potatoes
typically were what, you know,

933
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,440
the poor people or sent my
American.

934
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,200
And so when there was a blight
on them, then obviously there

935
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,880
was a shortage of food for poor
people, but there was no

936
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,720
shortage of food.
Right.

937
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Yeah, yeah.
So intentional, yeah, on the

938
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200
part of the of the British, so.
Definitely.

939
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,000
And if I'm remembering right,
and I may not be, but I do teach

940
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,920
a little bit about this in one
of my classes because the

941
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Organism that caused the potato
blight is something we

942
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,320
discussed.
Oh, my God.

943
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,720
So yeah, Phytophthora infestins.
It's an oh, my seat.

944
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,560
If you want to be all weird and
technical about it.

945
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,440
I love.
You're So Smart.

946
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Yeah.
So we don't talk about it much,

947
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,320
but I do mention it.
I show the Organism, I show a

948
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,640
blighted potato and we talk a
little bit about the fact that

949
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,520
this was in fact a genocide.
God, I love you.

950
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,120
And if I don't know the the
figures exactly but over if I

951
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,800
remember correctly over
1,000,000 people died.

952
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160
We are still not up to pre
famine.

953
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Population levels, that's right.
And over 1,000,000 people

954
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,920
emigrated.
Yeah.

955
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,200
I mean there were, I would say
those are probably more modest

956
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,600
numbers, but yes, like.
I mean, it could be always the

957
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,440
difference.
Sometimes, you know, we see it

958
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
today, for example, in
Palestine, the reported numbers

959
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,520
are always going to be lower
than the actual numbers, very,

960
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,520
very different or a variety of
reasons.

961
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Yes, some of them just
statistical and other more

962
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,640
nefarious.
Exactly to minimize, yeah, yeah.

963
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,480
So anyway, so that I guess we
should say that that's probably

964
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,720
the bottom range of what those
numbers actually are.

965
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,440
Yes.
And and yeah, I mean still,

966
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,160
still 9 not not quite back
there.

967
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:55,800
So.
Right.

968
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,840
The population is still lower
than it was before the famine

969
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,720
slash genocide.
OK, so yeah, so this is baked

970
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:05,080
deeply into your country's
history.

971
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,280
It.
It really is.

972
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,560
And you know, I think that is 1
positive thing.

973
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,640
And maybe you just have to step
away from conflict long, long

974
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,880
enough to take like a wee breath
and then go, let's really talk

975
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,320
about our history.
You know, like, let's really

976
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,200
talk about what it all looks
like and even like on a personal

977
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,200
level.
You know, I talk about it with

978
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,640
my sister sometimes.
Like there's only stuff I feel

979
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,080
like I am only like feeling now.
Yeah.

980
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,400
Because, you know, I live in a
different place and there is a

981
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,680
ceasefire and you know all of
those things.

982
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,880
But you know, you definitely
carry a lot in your in your

983
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,120
mind, in your body, I think.
I'm sure you do, and I think

984
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,840
that sometimes it can be quite
hard with any traumatic

985
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,880
experience to feel it fully and
deeply while you're in it,

986
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,920
because you're in survival mode
and so your system won't let you

987
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,880
just to keep you going and
alive.

988
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Right, it's it's like a we
survival mechanism for sure.

989
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,920
But and I also want to point out
like it's not like this like

990
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,480
story.
It's because it it also makes

991
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,200
you very resilient and in many
ways and like capable.

992
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,320
I'd like I feel very you are of
a lot.

993
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,400
Of you're, you're very capable
of a wide variety of things.

994
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,920
I'm continually in awe of you.
You're very.

995
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Sweet, thank you.
But I just, you know, I think it

996
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,520
needs to be acknowledged that,
you know, people from all

997
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,320
countries that sort of suffer on
a, you know, broad scale like

998
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,720
that.
It's, it's not necessarily

999
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,680
something to be or obviously not
something to look for either.

1000
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,600
But you know, right, You, you
gather some, some qualities, I

1001
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,440
think along the way.
Yeah, I believe that.

1002
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Yeah, I can see that.
Oh, thank you.

1003
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,760
All right, this could be a very
long podcast.

1004
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,760
So could we might have to do a?
Two parter, yes, because you

1005
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,440
know, we got into some good
stuff, but some things I think

1006
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,360
worth talking about.
So thank you for bringing the

1007
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,920
space to that.
Oh, yeah, no, absolutely.

1008
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,400
I mean, I'm genuinely curious
about you and everything about

1009
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
you.
I'm genuinely curious about

1010
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Ireland.
And you know what?

1011
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,000
I'm genuinely curious about the
world right and how we've ended

1012
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,480
up in this, should we say,
predicament that we're in.

1013
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,120
Moment.
Yeah, yeah, Not just as

1014
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,920
Americans, but as citizens of
the world.

1015
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,240
And it's wow, it's mind blowing.
But yeah, it's not something we

1016
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,560
can cover simply in a cute
little salty house podcast.

1017
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,040
But, you know, we'll, we'll,
we'll bring it all up.

1018
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,840
We'll, we'll answer questions.
We'll you know.

1019
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,600
We'll do.
We'll do all the things.

1020
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:57,360
But you know, I, I love being
from Ireland and I, I love the

1021
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:04,440
parts of me that keep me Irish.
My my peoples are very

1022
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:11,360
hospitable yes and I love that
part and generous and my love

1023
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,280
language is definitely feeding
people and.

1024
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,640
Can confirm you're.
Like, yes, but we like to bring

1025
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,840
people in.
Some of my friends probably

1026
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,000
listening, going.
Yeah, really.

1027
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,280
Well, I haven't seen much of
that.

1028
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,560
This is a very busy year.
We will resume.

1029
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Well, I, I have seen that.
I feel like when I invite you

1030
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,040
over to come to my house and
then, you know, I'll just send

1031
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,840
out the whole invite to the
group chat and I'm like, well,

1032
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,320
just, you know, bring something
if you want.

1033
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,480
And then you'll be like, oh, I
don't know what to bring.

1034
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,280
And I'm like, bring nothing.
Bring yourself.

1035
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,920
And you're like, OK.
And then you show up with this

1036
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,840
giant charcuterie board, and I'm
like, Claire, no.

1037
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Are you specifically weren't
supposed to bring anything.

1038
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
I know how busy you are.
You're so lovely.

1039
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,440
Well, it's like a, it's an
affront if you didn't show up

1040
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,840
with something in Ireland.
In fact, I don't know if this is

1041
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,880
just in the North, but we have
a, a saying where, because we're

1042
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,280
we're quite sarcastic, where if
you walk to somebody's house and

1043
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,400
you didn't have anything, they'd
say, oh, here you are with your

1044
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,560
two arms, the one length.
Oh wow that's so shady.

1045
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,160
I love it.
It's so.

1046
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,800
Shady.
We've got some really good shady

1047
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,320
lines and it's, you know, just
acknowledging that, wow, I don't

1048
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,680
see you carrying anything so
amazing.

1049
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
But weirdly, when you come to
us, we don't like you to bring

1050
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,880
anything.
I could because we want.

1051
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,720
To feed you.
So it's.

1052
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,560
It's a weird.
It's a weird.

1053
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,320
It's a no win situation.
It is.

1054
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Yeah.
Well, what else do you want to

1055
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,560
tell us about your childhood in
Ireland?

1056
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,440
Oh my goodness, yeah, that that
that will fit into the last

1057
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,960
minutes of our Wii.
Oh yeah, I guess I just looked

1058
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,440
at our time.
I I mean, we could keep going,

1059
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,520
but we, we.
We could put a pin in it and do

1060
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,080
a Part 2 if you'd rather we.
We can do that.

1061
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,440
I mean, here's the thing it's
going to come up at.

1062
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Other Yeah, that is true.
Like generally, but I will give

1063
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,040
some travel advice to Merka.
Oh please, I love that.

1064
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,240
OK, so if so, I've never been to
Ireland, actually, it's been on

1065
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,720
my list for a long time.
But I want to go with you.

1066
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,320
So, you know, I've kind of been
holding out.

1067
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,520
But, you know, should I go to
Ireland?

1068
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,960
Tell me, Give me the scoop.
Yes, and not only should you go

1069
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,480
to Ireland.
So like even when I'm standing

1070
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,320
in the line at Immigration and
Customs in Ireland, you know,

1071
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,320
you hear them all, where are you
going, blah, blah, blah.

1072
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:30,760
And all the Americans say Dublin
and the cliffs of Moore, and

1073
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,760
you're like.
Wow, really branching out there

1074
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,720
I.
Know she had.

1075
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,920
Because here's the thing, for
Americans, they're like, I'm

1076
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600
going on vacation for four days.
Yeah, they're like true.

1077
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,120
That is not vacation like
minimum two weeks.

1078
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,360
They're like.
But don't worry, I'll still

1079
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,920
answer emails I know.
My God, they need help.

1080
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,280
And I include myself in this now
because I, I believe I become

1081
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,360
American in that regard.
But you know, there's, obviously

1082
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,680
you go to any country, there's,
you know, like Irish people are

1083
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,600
probably not going to come to
Salt Lake City unless they're

1084
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,240
Mormon.
You know you're going to go to

1085
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,840
New York or Vegas or LA, you
know?

1086
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,080
So it makes sense.
Every place has it, the

1087
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,560
difference being that Ireland is
very small, yes, so you can

1088
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,080
actually fit quite a lot in and
typically people do not go

1089
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,320
north.
OK.

1090
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,880
And like, I kind of understand
that, you know, pre 1998, you're

1091
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,800
probably like, oh.
It could it be hazardous?

1092
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,320
Maybe we'll just skip.
That for now, yes I I can

1093
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,160
understand that and it's also
true like you would have been

1094
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,640
fine then most.
Most likely, yeah.

1095
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,240
But after 19, it's like it's
been a ceasefire.

1096
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:45,000
And, you know, but
interestingly, someone shared

1097
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,480
this week with me that they went
to Ireland on a vacation and the

1098
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,240
Irish people said, oh, you
shouldn't go.

1099
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:51,280
North.
Oh, really?

1100
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,040
So I can't just blame the
Americans like, yeah, come on,

1101
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,720
people in the South help us out.
But yeah, it's, it's 101 miles

1102
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:01,440
from Dublin to Belfast.
That's all.

1103
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,360
And it just would, you know, if
you were coming here like the

1104
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
first time I came to America,
you know, we did Utah and

1105
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,000
California and Vegas and, you
know, and that's a lot longer

1106
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,240
than 101 miles.
Oh my God, yeah.

1107
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,560
But like, we're here, so we may
as well explore, right?

1108
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,000
And so, yeah, it's about a 90
minute drive at this point

1109
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,080
because the border's all
demilitarized.

1110
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,320
And so the only reason you know
you're in the north is the lines

1111
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,760
in the road have changed color
and everything's in miles

1112
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,640
instead of kilometers.
So you don't have to show a

1113
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,480
passport or anything.
No, not anymore.

1114
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000
You used to have to go through a
military checkpoint, right?

1115
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,040
Yeah, but it's it's been a long.
Time drive on through, OK.

1116
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,560
Americans go north.
Yeah, go north.

1117
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,680
It's.
A whole other cultural

1118
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,840
experience, different currency,
different government if the

1119
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,880
government's deciding to work
that time, but it's just a whole

1120
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,760
other experience.
And you know, I love my we home

1121
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,280
time.
I would love to give anybody a

1122
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,880
local stir so.
OK, well, we'll have to make

1123
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,120
that happen.
You'd get good crack, which

1124
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,080
don't worry, they are not
offering you drugs.

1125
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,600
We.
What are we offering?

1126
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,920
We would just say it's a wild
good crack.

1127
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,800
Like if you had a good night
like or we have great crack

1128
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,920
doing the podcast, right.
We have great crack.

1129
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,160
We have great crack.
It's spelled CMRAIC.

1130
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,400
Oh, I've seen that word.
OK, I didn't realize drunks.

1131
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,000
It's fun.
OK, fun.

1132
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,960
Good.
Say the crack is 90, which means

1133
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,360
it was really.
High OK, I like, I like so good

1134
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,600
Crack.
I like you, have fun.

1135
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,200
Yeah, you would have a warm
welcome, you would get great

1136
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,000
food, lots of old, old, old
things to see buildings and and

1137
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,360
the like.
But yeah, go north, Merka, go

1138
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,760
north.
OK go north.

1139
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,360
I like it.
Any other travel tips?

1140
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,040
Ma'am, we drive on the other
side of the.

1141
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,440
Road, that's right, yes.
So be careful of that.

1142
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,640
Roads are also a little
narrower, so yeah.

1143
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,200
And make sure you bring rain
gear.

1144
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,200
Yeah, definitely bring the rain
gear.

1145
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,120
But you'll come back and your
hair and your skin will be

1146
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,800
glowing.
Yes, that's true.

1147
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,000
My hair gets rippled here.
Very, very puffy.

1148
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,680
It gets very, very witchy.
Yes, I love it.

1149
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,520
A wee.
A wee.

1150
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,920
Bit of humidity I don't but my
skin loves it.

1151
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,520
Yeah, I, I feel, I like the
moist, the moistness.

1152
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,640
I feel very moist when I go back
home.

1153
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,680
So yeah, I don't just, you know,
being, being by the water.

1154
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,640
We have beautiful beaches.
Yeah, you do.

1155
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,960
I actually met a dive guide in
the Cayman Islands who was,

1156
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,400
well, he was English actually,
but he had just come from

1157
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,480
Ireland, where he was leading
diving tours.

1158
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,360
Yeah.
I love it.

1159
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,840
Yeah, he showed me some amazing
pictures.

1160
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,760
I hope his wetsuit was very
thick.

1161
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,480
I think you would probably wear
a dry suit there.

1162
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,880
OK, Yeah.
I don't what is that?

1163
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,000
So it doesn't let the water in
as so you wear like long

1164
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,240
underwear and then it seals.
Warm.

1165
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Yeah, like, well, no, but thick
and warm, not just annoying.

1166
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,960
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
I can't say that I never wore

1167
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,600
them.
I never.

1168
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Can't confirm.
OK, yeah, but they seal at the

1169
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,080
ankles and the wrist and the
neck.

1170
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,680
So you don't have water in those
places.

1171
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Oh, I would need that.
I get very cold.

1172
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,840
Yeah.
It's the water is very cold.

1173
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,840
You mentioned the Southern
California, it's just, yeah,

1174
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,520
it's very cold.
Yeah, it's colder there.

1175
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,320
Yeah.
But a lot of people do either be

1176
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,800
cold, plunge in the ocean.
Every day.

1177
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,400
Yeah, I like that sort of.
And you have cute seals there.

1178
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,400
Right.
It's lovely.

1179
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Yes, it's lovely.
OK, so friends, go to Ireland.

1180
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Anything else?
Just have a great time, have a

1181
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,440
great time, talk to people.
Yes, they're friendly.

1182
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,520
Go to the bar.
Go to the Belfast, the pub.

1183
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,720
Yes, go to the Sunflower.
Sunflower, Sunflower.

1184
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,680
I love it.
OK, go to the Sunflower.

1185
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,240
You'll get some traditional
music, great pizza which is not

1186
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,160
Irish.
You don't say.

1187
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,200
And a pint of Bemish Beamish.
Would highly recommend Beamish.

1188
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,080
Oh interesting.
It's like a stout.

1189
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Oh OK.
Personally, I like it more than

1190
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,000
Guinness.
So I'm not really a stout girly.

1191
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,880
I don't totally care for
Guinness, but occasionally a

1192
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
black and tan is nice.
Like with a harp and a Guinness

1193
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,880
together.
Yeah, quite nice.

1194
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Like diluted a wee bit.
I think you'd like a Beamish.

1195
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,200
OK, well I will try it when I'm
in Ireland.

1196
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Yes, I will take you to the
Sunflower.

1197
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Yay, have a wee Beamish and a
pizza.

1198
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,840
OK.
And we will do a show from

1199
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,960
there.
Yes, Oh my God, right.

1200
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,160
And we'll get Irish people to
come in and.

1201
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Oh my God that would be perfect.
So fun, I would love that.

1202
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,920
And they would.
OK, Yeah.

1203
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,800
Well, a preview of coming
attractions.

1204
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,560
Yes.
Well, I had so many more

1205
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,960
questions for you, but do you
think we should wrap this up and

1206
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,440
go to a Part 2?
You know, I, I just think we

1207
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,880
should, yes, wrap it up.
Cuz I mean, we're at an hour.

1208
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,520
We could go hours.
Yeah, at any hours.

1209
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,960
You know, I'm deeply searching
like, Oh my God, what what

1210
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,120
should I mention that I haven't
said about just even, you know,

1211
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,440
Ireland generally.
But yeah, there there's, there's

1212
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,480
lots we could say, but.
Yeah, just happy to talk about

1213
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,360
my replays, so thank you.
I love it.

1214
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,920
Well, as we sign off, do you
have like an Irish goodbye for

1215
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,360
us?
I know that you told me an Irish

1216
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,120
goodbye.
Like where you sneak off isn't

1217
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,720
real?
Oh God, when I got here I was

1218
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,120
like, what the hell are you
talking about?

1219
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,040
So I don't know.
I didn't hear this as as an

1220
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,520
Irish person.
So we're Irish listeners here.

1221
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,840
If you sneak off, it's called an
Irish goodbye.

1222
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,360
And I was like, I am affronted.
That is just not true.

1223
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,840
Like in Ireland, if you leave,
if you go see like your parents

1224
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,720
on a Sunday, like the family
comes into the street to weave

1225
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,520
goodbye until your car is out of
sight.

1226
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,240
That's cute.
I love that.

1227
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,600
The complete opposite of what?
We mean by an Irish goodbye.

1228
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,200
By an Irish goodbye.
So yeah.

1229
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,400
I mean sadly I only know some
catch phrases mostly in Irish we

1230
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,400
have instead of a blessing it
would just be kid me Lafalcha,

1231
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,280
which is actually a welcome to
people.

1232
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,800
But that's a like 100,000
welcomes.

1233
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Oh yeah, I love that.
Somebody might say that we have

1234
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,320
a rebel saying Chucky Arla.
That's a good one.

1235
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,160
What does that mean?
Our day will come.

1236
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,080
Oh, I like it.
Yes.

1237
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,440
OK, so if you're familiar with
band kneecap, yeah.

1238
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,640
So yeah, that's that's an
inflammatory one for some people

1239
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,000
and A and a good one for others.
So.

1240
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Let's take it the hopeful way,
yeah?

1241
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,200
But you, you know, what you can
hear is it's a very.

1242
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,680
Beautiful language.
It is a beautiful language, yes.

1243
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,920
And like my son actually taught
me this because he is much

1244
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,480
better Irish language than me.
Like we don't in terms of like

1245
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,080
possessive in the language.
We never say like me or mine.

1246
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,640
It's always my share of and and
I kind of love that.

1247
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,480
I like that too.
That's lovely.

1248
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,360
All right, friends.
That's it.

1249
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,800
Go Ireland.
Go to Ireland for your trip,

1250
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,720
you'll be greeted with 1000
welcomes.

1251
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,440
You will.
I will learn that phrase

1252
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,480
eventually.
And Irish.

1253
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,440
Until then, keep listening
friends.

1254
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,600
Give us a wee five star rating
if you feel so inclined to

1255
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,200
review.
But most importantly, give us a

1256
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,720
comment.
Tell us what you think.

1257
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,520
Tell us what you want to hear.
We are open to your feedback.

1258
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:18,200
Claire, thank you so much for
sharing your stories, a small

1259
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,880
subset of your stories for
sharing something about your

1260
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,160
beautiful, beautiful country and
about Saint Patty's Day.

1261
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Thank you my wee Melissa Rella
and I appreciate the the chance

1262
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,160
to talk about it all.
It's good crack.

1263
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,400
It's good crack.
We've had some good crack today.

1264
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,600
We've had some good.
Crack and friends I hope all

1265
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,800
y'all have some good crack today
on Saint patties day with two

1266
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,360
d's with two d's Happy Saint
patties day.

1267
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,800
Happy Saint patties, have a good
one.

1268
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,840
We'll catch you next time.
Bye bye.