Feb. 13, 2026

A Very Salty Valentine

A Very Salty Valentine
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Join Claire and Mel, the Salty Hoes, as they navigate the highs and lows of love and dating just in time for Valentine's Day. They discuss the idea of making Super Bowl Monday a holiday, share personal mishaps in their love lives including Mr. High Rise's bizarre meltdown and a fake snail documentary filmmaker's booty call. From hilariously bad Valentine's Day stories to a rare beacon of hopeful masculinity, this episode promises relatable laughs and heartwarming moments.

Whether you're celebrating or single this Valentine's, Claire and Mel have got you covered with their witty banter and candid reflections on the trials of modern dating.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions

00:47 Holiday Talk: Super Bowl vs. Valentine's Day

02:08 Valentine's Day and Dating Stories

02:22 The Tale of Mr. High Rise

05:57 Texting Friend and Valentine's Day Reflections

10:36 Cherished Valentine's Notes

11:15 Grand Valentine's Gesture Gone Wrong

12:53 Dating Disasters and Red Flags

19:39 Hopeful Prospects and Sweet Messages

22:00 Valentine's Day Reflections

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Welcome back, we're coming at
you with another wee salty bite

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from the more morador, but more.
I love it.

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I always going to say the
Morador corridor, which is.

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Oh, that's even better.
The Morador corridor.

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Do you like that?
I love it.

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OK.
Oh, Morador Corridor.

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Totally intentional on my part.
I am Claire.

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I'm Mel.
And together we are the salty

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hose.
So it's a special holiday this

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week, Mel.
What holiday?

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Is it Oh my favorite holiday of
all time, the Super Bowl?

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Oh, that one, that's.
Not what you meant.

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Oh, we just had that.
OK.

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No, I'm sorry.
You're talking about Valentine's

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Day, aren't you?
I know how much you love the

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Super.
Bowl Well, it is the best

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American holiday.
Yeah, you do like that one.

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Actually I think the Monday, the
day following should be a

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holiday because everyone is
hungover as fuck.

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That's very true.
There's right not a lot of

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productivity happen happening,
particularly if your team lost

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like because you would be sad
too.

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Yeah, well, or if your team won,
you're celebrating.

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That's true.
So I.

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Know it's bad.
I have a proposal.

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Let's get rid of Thanksgiving
and make the Super Bowl Monday a

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holiday.
What do you think?

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I go merka, yes.
I mean, come on, Thanksgiving,

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we don't need that anymore.
I don't like it anyway.

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You know that is fair because as
a person that did not grow up

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celebrating Thanksgiving, I am
always like why are there 2 like

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massive holidays so close
together?

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Yeah, and it's kind of
problematic, but anyway, that's.

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Apart from that, yeah, I mean,
yes, like why are we celebrating

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the rape and murder of
Indigenous people?

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There is that aspect.
There is that, but that's not

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what we're talking about today
is.

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It no, but look at us sometimes
today.

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Well, maybe that was some good
like foreshadowing.

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Yeah, there we go.
All right.

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Well, let's talk about
Valentine's.

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Yeah.
Do you have a Valentine this

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year?
I do not have a Valentine this

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year.
It's very sad.

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So I guess I can just catch
everyone up on my dating life or

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lack thereof.
Yes, How I So I think maybe by

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now you've heard a couple of
episodes mentioning Mr. High

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Rise that is no longer a thing.
And it's probably worth

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mentioning that we don't always
release these in the order that

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we record them.
This is very true because

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sometimes we're struck by
inspiration or we're like, Oh my

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God, it's a holiday.
We are Sundance.

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Like we had to mark the
occasion.

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Absolutely.
We had to sneak one in there.

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So some of the episodes that you
hear we've recorded, you know, a

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week or two beforehand, and some
are hot off the press.

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Yeah, there's some that we
record and then we push out the

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next day.
The timeline's a little wonky,

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y'all.
So you may hear one more episode

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mentioning Mr. High Rise.
Mr. High Rise is no longer a

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thing.
Mr. High Rise went off the deep

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end.
What happened?

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It was going so good.
I thought it was too like we,

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you know, we hung out on a
Friday, everything was fine and

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then we were supposed to get
together on Sunday.

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Didn't hear anything. 2 days.
Yeah, two days.

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Oh my God.
A whole 2 days.

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Yeah, well, except for on
Sunday.

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No text.
No text, no text.

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Like I was doing my thing,
working out, doing my errands.

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And finally I was like, hey, I
thought we were going to get

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together.
And he had like, kind of a

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meltdown over the course of
several days.

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He was like, well, I'm really
sick.

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Like I'm shaking.
I have 103° fever.

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And I was like, do you want me
to come drive you to the ER?

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Right, like.
That sounds serious.

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It sounds very serious and I'm
very sensitive because I did

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have a sepsis incident which we
can talk about another time.

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Well, we.
Definitely need to talk about

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that.
Yeah, it was real bad.

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But anyway, so like, it worries
me, of course.

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And he was like, no, I'm fine,
fine.

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Next day, nothing.
I finally texted, Are you OK?

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Yeah.
I'm still shaking.

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I still have a really high
fever.

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I can't get out of bed.
I'm like, can I come drive you

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to the ER?
Right, because this has been

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days night.
Yeah, no, nothing.

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Next day, I'm like, are you
alive?

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What's happening?
Right.

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And then there is this string of
bizarre, vague texts talking

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about friends from back home and
friends here in Utah and his

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mother and how it's really hard
to go to the gym two days a week

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and what?
Yeah, it was.

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What the weirdest?
I know I'm like, is this a drug

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relapse?
Are we flipping between manic

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and like?
I don't understand what was

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happening.
Like what is going on?

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Yeah, wow.
And then at the end, like there

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really was no clarity.
I was just, I just sort of

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stopped responding because it
was bizarre.

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God, I am so sorry.
Why did why does this happen?

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I am sure people are listening
that are like, yeah.

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Sounds familiar?
Yeah.

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Yeah, like that like slow fade
or and also just like what

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happened because your last year
was so good.

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It was totally good.
Nothing happened.

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Nothing weird happened.
Right.

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And so like totally get that
sometimes we're just not feeling

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it or maybe somebody from the
past pops up or or yeah, maybe

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we're going through a thing
just.

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Communicate, but just tell me,
right?

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Yeah, don't start Like, is the
fever even real?

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Yeah, who knows, right?
Like just something short and

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sweet.
You could just end it.

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You don't need.
People.

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You know 20 texts of verbal
diarrhea that I don't

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understand, right?
That's so.

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Weird.
Yeah, Anyway, so so that's.

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But actually now I can reveal
the other reason that his name

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was Mr. High Rise.
Oh yeah, go ahead.

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Well, he lied about his height.
Oh.

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He was one of those.
What did he say he was?

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He put 5/9 and.
What was he?

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Well, he told me that he had
lied by an inch and he was 58,

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but he was my height or even a
little shorter, so he lied by at

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least two inches.
Well, I'm glad I didn't swipe on

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him because I would have been.
Towering over, towering over.

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Him.
Yes.

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Oh my.
God.

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All right, well, enough about my
situation.

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What do you have going on?
Oh, my God.

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Any Valentine's.
You know, no, I am Valentine

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less for the, honestly, the
third year in a row because,

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yeah, that's another story of
the Valentine's three years ago,

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I guess.
But yes, I am with Ida

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Valentine.
Like not even a prospect of a

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Valentine.
Not a potential Valentine

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looming on the horizon.
No, there has been, there is

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there is no Valentine.
The only sort of like semi

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prospect that is not even a
prospect has been my texting

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friend.
You know about my texting?

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Friend, I do, yes.
Yeah.

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So this is a person that I had,
again kind of similar to your

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situation.
We had a couple of deets.

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We never had sex, but fun, like,
just fun.

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Yeah.
And really good banter over

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tech.
Like this person sent me like

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3000 texts or something on the
space of a month.

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Like just banter, like, you
know, And then it just.

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Fizzled.
It just stopped like abruptly.

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Well, like your situation with
Mr. High Rise and you're just

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like, OK, that what?
And then I reached I after a

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full year, oh wow, no contact a
full year.

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And then he was the one that was
like, oh, if you want to text me

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later, that's OK.
And I just said same because I

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didn't want to be texting him
back.

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And so he followed up and again
we've been texting for like a

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month but he does not want to
see me in real life.

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Oh my God.
So that's that's my situation.

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Yeah, we were.
He talked about coffee.

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But then when it came down to
it, he was very.

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Couldn't perform.
Couldn't perform.

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Couldn't perform the coffee and
I was like, OK, bro.

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And I was proud of myself
because before I, you know, I

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would have been like, oh, butt,
butt, butt, butt.

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And I was just like, I cannot
keep pouring energy into a text

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buddy.
Yeah, you get tired of chasing

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sometimes.
You really do.

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And it is chasing.
Well, it is, yeah.

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Yeah.
So.

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Especially someone who's kind of
made it clear that you're not

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really a priority.
Exactly.

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Cuz like, how can you be?
We're all busy.

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We're so busy.
Of course.

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And actually I text him.
I'm so glad you mentioned it

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that Alex.
Why do I always forget his last?

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Name Alex Honnold.
Thank you, I text him that

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picture.
I was like.

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Bro the picture of him texting
his wife from the top of Taipei

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one O 1 after he free soloed the
entire skyscraper.

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Yes, it's like we make time for
the things we want to make time.

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For that's right, if he wanted
to.

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He would, right?
I just don't get that

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psychology.
Why have a text friend?

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Like I don't get it.
What?

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Purpose.
Does it serve?

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I don't know, maybe it's a
little low effort dopamine hit.

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I know dude, just watch porn and
text your friend.

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I don't know.
But.

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You know what I mean?
It's like, why?

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I don't.
Yeah, I don't get that.

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So.
Yeah, that's weird.

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Have you?
Have you had good Valentine's?

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Given that neither of us are
have a little Valentine's this

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year?
Have you had a history of good

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Valentine's?
No, not exactly.

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I mean, I was married for a long
time, and maybe there were a

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couple times we did something
for Valentine's, but I feel like

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all the vast majority of the
years it wasn't really a thing.

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I didn't get a gift or flowers
or go out to dinner, Which

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actually that part is fine
because I don't like going out

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to dinner on Valentine's Day.
It's too busy.

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It's crowded.
You're going to get bad service,

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likely cold food.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
So it's not fun.

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I know that's not fun, so
whatever on that.

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But, you know, I feel like once
you've been with someone for a

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while, sometimes the holidays
are a little bit.

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Yeah, you know, Yeah.
So whatever, not a big deal.

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How about you?
Have you had good Valentine's in

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the past?
I mean, you're like, that would

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be a no.
Well, when I, when I was dating

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my husband and we were in
different countries, he was here

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and I was in Ireland, he just
sent me like a lovely little

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frog card because I love frogs
at the time.

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How cute.
But then we got married and

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nothing happened.
Yeah.

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And I was like, oh, like, what
can we do?

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Valentine's like.
And he was like, it is a

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capitalist holiday and like, you
know why?

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I agree with some of the
sentiments.

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It's like but it's just fun.
But they're all capitalist

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holidays.
I mean Christmas, Easter, like

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everything it all.
Exists to sell you things.

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Just buy me some flowers down
right and stop over analyzing.

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Right, right.
Or another way to say it is

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these holidays could have the
meaning that you give them,

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right?
Yeah, write me a note.

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You know what?
Honestly, I have to say, notes

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are way like little card.
A note are more impressive to

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me, like a box.
I I agree.

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And actually, now that you said
that, I remember I still do have

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a Valentine's note saved from my
ex-husband.

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Yeah, I know because it was like
it was a rare thing.

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Yeah, it was actually a lovely
little note.

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That's because it's.
Thoughtful, right?

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It's like it's meaningful.
So I just think that the amount

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of effort put into not
celebrating a holiday could

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easily transfer into a little
gesture.

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Yeah, like 10 minutes.
Yeah, You could just write a

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cute little thing, yeah.
Something.

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Anything just.
Like a wee thing.

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I did have a very and
Valentine's one once, but in

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hindsight I realized it was it
was quite performative and love

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bommy.
Oh, love Bommy.

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Yeah, that's a red flag.
Yes.

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I didn't know that a few years
ago.

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Now I know that.
Yeah, I did not know also at the

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time.
It was very interesting though.

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Like it was, it was like the
grand America, like stay like, I

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mean, it was very, very over the
top.

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Wow.
Roses, Champagne, the whole

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thing.
But then, never was another

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Valentine separated.
In fact, there was always like

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an incident around the holiday
after that.

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Oh yes.
Yes, Yep, I know exactly what

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you mean.
Yes, let's engineer a fight so

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that I do not have to perform
for the holiday or.

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And this is funny because it was
Mr. Shitty Pants.

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And I love.
That one year, explosive

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diarrhea was.
Well, that is exactly on brand

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and we.
Had to go to the ER and I was

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like, I don't think you go to
the ER for like the poops, like

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just don't eat, hydrate and, you
know, let it work through you.

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But no, we had to go.
Wow.

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And it was his year for
Valentine's, yes?

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Oh my God, yes.
There was a lot of shitting.

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There was.
A lot of shitting in that

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relationship.
What a metaphor.

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For, well, I mean literal and,
you know, figuratively.

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That man shat on you all the
time.

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Yes, I'm so glad you're done
with that.

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Me too.
But Oh my God, how did I not

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realize the volume of shit at
the.

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Time, good Lord.
Nice.

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Well, are you talking to anyone?
Do you have any prospects?

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Like, maybe not for Valentine's,
but for Beyond.

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You know, I really, I'm at the
point I feel like probably for

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one of the first time ever, I'm
just done like.

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There's no no.
There's just like a void like

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the the hope has drained from my
soul of dating because it's just

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like, weird.
It's just weird out there now.

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It's weird, but I thought you
were talking to somebody.

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Well, I did have a conversation
with a a man the other night

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that I I thought could
potentially be quite fun.

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Will I share?
That please.

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As my voice goes up five
octaves.

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Oh boy, I can't wait you.
Can you can tell, I mean, it's

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just this is not going to be a
shocking or an unusual story,

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which is kind of sad.
But so this guy we matched and

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he was actually from California
and he was a movie guy.

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Oh, I like it.
And you know, he wow, beautiful

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smile like leads with that.
And I'm like, oh, hi, how are

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you?
And he tells me he's here

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filming a documentary on snails.
Oh, that's so cool.

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The western beetle snail.
To be exact, I love snails,

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Claire.
I know.

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And I text you, right.
And you were like, actually,

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that's kind of hot because you
know, your job, your area, your

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you were into the creatures.
They're cute.

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I love me a little mollusk,
little gastropod a little.

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You see, I'm like, you know, he
probably wouldn't expect that

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response.
Typically turns like he was

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yanking my chain.
No, yes.

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And he actually was not making a
documentary.

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I guess that's his joke that he
uses.

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Oh fuck that guy.
Yeah.

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And I was like, no, like I am
the most, you know, this might

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be I can't I I take everything
so literally.

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Like when you're texting someone
like that doesn't come through

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as humor.
Right.

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Not at all, especially because
he specified like a species.

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I mean, you could be doing a
documentary on snails.

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There's some endangered snails
like down in Zion.

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Like I completely would have
believed that too.

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Legitimate places turns like he
was filming a western which he

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immediately like said oh it's
actually a western and then

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immediately said that he is
filming at a remote reservoir

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and said just immediately you
should come over tonight.

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We could just chill and watch a
movie.

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What do you think?
Now I also I'd like to point out

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that this is 12/20 at night.
Oh jeez, that's a booty.

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Call and I'm typically not up
that late but I had a lot of

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work and you know I need a
little transition time before I

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go to sleep.
Immediately says Yikes.

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I hope that wasn't too forward.
If it was I apologize.

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And I just said we bit late for
meeting up with strangers for

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the first time lol.
And he's like well we could get

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a drink or something instead.
I'm like did you not hear what I

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just said Then this is great.
Full disclosure I'm not looking

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for sex, just some good
conversation and maybe a little

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kissing.
Don't get the wrong idea.

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Don't get the wrong ideas.
I text you, you should come over

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at 12:20 PM.
Yeah, AM sorry.

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And so I, you know, I just went
on to be like, wait, you invited

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me to a remote reservoir in the
middle of the night that's 90

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minutes from my house.
Like, sorry, like, I need

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answers here.
You know, I was like, has that

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worked for you before?
Just.

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Yeah.
Curious.

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And yeah.
And so it went on to even more

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weird things.
And, you know, I just said good

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night, have good sleeps and hope
you find a decent movie, pal.

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And he said, I'm not looking for
any old pal.

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I'm just talking to you tonight.
Wow.

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Yeah.
OK, that's the end of that

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conversation.
Well, that's weird, yeah.

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Like just hi cute smile
documentary about snails.

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Just kidding.
You want to come over?

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Not to fuck, not to fuck.
Just a kiss and talk, but I only

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want you.
Wow, okay.

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You're just like, why at this
age?

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Why?
Why if I was 25, maybe like,

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come on.
Maybe.

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What have you got?
Yikes.

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Any prospects?
Well, I did talk to a couple of

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people from the apps.
I talked to one who initially

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was kind of promising.
We grew up in the same area.

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Yeah, right.
We graduated from rival high

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schools, right in California.
So we started talking, and he

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asked me, like, if I was LDS.
And I said, well, I used to be,

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but that was a really long time
ago.

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You know, I didn't tell him my
whole story, but I was like,

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it's been like since my early
20s.

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And he said that he kind of just
recently got out of the Mormon

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church.
So he said I moved to Utah.

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I did the whole Mormon thing,
married twice in the temple, got

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tired of people telling me how
to live my life, then left this

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past October.
Now I'm non religious.

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And I said oh, OK, so you're a
brand new ex MO and he's like

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don't call me an ex Mormon.
I was like, OK, I know.

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He's like, I just do me.
I don't talk badly about it.

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I don't care about politics,
religion or watching the news.

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Oh my God, Cam dying.
I took a wee breath.

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I was like, okay.
And then he's like, does it

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bother you?
I don't have any animosity

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towards the Mormon church.
I was like, no dude, I was just

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trying to like get your back
story.

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You're like, it bothers me, your
level of animosity.

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Towards life, right?
Seriously.

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And then he dropped it.
He had eight kids from his two

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tumble marriages were.
Like hard pass.

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Yeah, so I'm trying to sort of
start the slow fade away, like

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over text, right?
And then he sends me these two

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texts.
First of all, what are you

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looking for?
A non religious guy in a

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religious state.
Question mark.

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I mean yeah, obviously, but I
didn't, I didn't answer that.

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And then he said so because you
don't believe in any religion

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you don't mind having sex?
Just want to make sure you won't

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get sad when we have sex for
feeling bad.

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What?
Yeah.

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Oh my God.
I know I'm like.

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You're like, that would be a
hard pass Goodbye knowing.

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00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,520
Yeah, like we just started
talking on an app I've never met

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you like, and suddenly you're
assuming that we're going to

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have sex.
Excuse me.

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So I said I don't think this was
going to work out.

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I'm going to end this
conversation.

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Best wishes.
And then I blocked him.

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Nice.
And then?

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00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,720
Oh my God.
He went on Tinder and found me

405
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,840
there.
Oh my gosh, me Super spied me

406
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,400
there.
Oh no.

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00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,080
So I blocked him there too.
Wow.

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Yeah, well, good time.
Is this a hopeless Valentine or

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do?
We have hope.

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Maybe, Well, we might have hope.
Well, we're running a little

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long, but I guess I can share
one more thing.

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So I did go on a date with
someone, a first date.

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He seems real nice and we played
pickleball and had a quick

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drink.
That's a cute date.

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00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,280
Super cute date, right?
Like an activity, super low

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pressure.
It was fun.

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And he sent me this message.
I'm just going to read it

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because I feel like this is a
tale of two Valentine's, right?

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Right.
Do you think?

420
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,800
Yeah.
Well, I would like to end on

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hope.
A high note.

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And and nice.
Let me redo this.

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00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,920
Let.
Me redo this.

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I'm waiting with.
My Kleenex.

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00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320
Hi Melissa, you are really
sweet, playful and fun.

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I'd love to go on another date
with you.

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00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,600
I'll give you some time to
reflect and decide whether a

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schmuck like me who doesn't
scuba dive is worthy to date

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you.
I can handle the truth.

430
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,320
So here's my phone number for
you to either ignore or call

431
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600
text.
I enjoyed playing pickleball

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with you.
Thanks for putting up with a

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tennis player.
You're a really good player by

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the way.
Very natural with a good head on

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your shoulders just to keep the
ball in play, which is 90% of

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the competitive spirit.
Although tonight wasn't so much

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00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600
competitive as it was getting to
know you, I think you're very

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attractive.
Have a good night.

439
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,320
Maybe I should have been more
gentlemanlike and offered you a

440
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ride in case you felt under the
influence that you seemed fine.

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I would have just dropped you
off.

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Thanks again, I had a great
night.

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What?
Oh my God.

444
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Like he covered everything in
there.

445
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,400
Isn't that so sweet?
So what you're telling me is

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it's possible?
So what I'm telling you is,

447
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regardless of whether anything
works out with this man, yeah,

448
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some men are good people.
They are.

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And we just need to find them.
We just.

450
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Need to find them on in real
life on the app somewhere.

451
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,360
Yeah yes, agreed.
Even if you never saw him again.

452
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:27,840
What a gentleman.
Right.

453
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,320
They're out there.
They exist.

454
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,200
I mean, the effort, the thought
and the kindness that comes

455
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,960
through in that message, I think
is just outstanding.

456
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,920
That's a manly man right there.
Yes, this is our healthy

457
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800
masculinity.
Yes 100% I love this for.

458
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,760
You OK?
Well, I just love this period

459
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,440
and I think maybe it should give
us both hope.

460
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,840
I hope so.
There's men like us out there,

461
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,520
just like probably they're
trying to sift through all the

462
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,600
bullshit too, yeah.
And and just want pleasant,

463
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,320
nice.
Yes, yes.

464
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,120
Tale of two Valentine's just the
one, please.

465
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,560
Yeah, well, there is one
Valentine in my life, and that's

466
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,040
you, my love.
Back at you, Queen.

467
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840
All right, friends, salty hoes,
salty Bros Happy Valentine's

468
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080
Day.
I hope whatever your status,

469
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,080
whether married, dating or
single, you have a lovely day.

470
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,880
And hopefully we managed to keep
you company if if you are

471
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,840
spending it like we are.
Alone, alone.

472
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,040
All right.
Catch you next time, friends.

473
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,560
Goodbye.
Later, bye.